Help needed - £700 budget and not built in a long time

[killerk]

Hello,

Looking for some advice on a number of components and aiming close to £700. I have 2x3.5" storage drives and will be looking to add another in the next 6months along with a 256Gb 2.5 SSD which may affect motherboard and case choices? Not interested in overclocking just now and would like a quiet but not overly hot system

Heres what I have so far which is over budget so will need to cut back where possible?

CPU - Ryzen 3300x (is the stock cooler enough?) - £130
Mobo - MSI B450 Tomahawk Max £120
RAM - 2x8GB Vengeance LPX Black 3200 MHz £80
OS Drive - WD SN750 500GB £85
Graphics - Radeon RX 580 Arez Dual OC -£170
Case - Fractal Design R6 £140 or Be Quiet 601 £114 (love the look of this but does it run too hot?)
PSU - Be Quiet Pure Power 11 500W £75

£775 Total

 

[mickyflinn]

Would Be helpful if you list the price of each part and total.

 

[Gray2233]

What exactly is the system for?

Just gaming? If so at what resolution/refresh rate?

Work related stuff like video editing or just basic office use?

 

[killerk]

Apologies, its mostly going to be for gaming (call of duty, gta v etc) at 1080p for just now

 

[Quartz]

Go for the Ryzen 3600, not the 3300. The extra cores will stand you in good stead in the longer term.

You appear to be getting four 8 GB sticks of RAM; two 16 GB sticks may be better and cheaper.

Which graphics card do you have now? Because Nvidia are launching their new GPUs in August or September.

 

[killerk]

Copied the wrong info for the RAM, edited now. Its 16GB total.

Currently have a ATI 5770 which is years old, I would prefer to build the whole thing now unless there was going to be a massive saving

 

[mickyflinn]

You could save some money by getting an ssd instead of an nvme also teamgroup 3200mhz ram can save you £15.

Could spend the difference on a 3600 6 core

3200mhz v 3600 mHz ram maybe 1-2 fps in gaming.

 

[killerk]

Thanks, is the 3600 worth the extra £40 then?

 

[Gray2233]

Thanks, is the 3600 worth the extra £40 then?

I would say so, £130 is a crap price for a 3300X.

You're basically paying hexa-core money for a quad.

 

[Quartz]

I would prefer to build the whole thing now unless there was going to be a massive saving

Then that GPU is a solid choice. You might also look at a GTX 1650 Super, one of the ones based on the TU106 chip. I'm not sure which models have that, though. The 1650 market is very confused.

Thanks, is the 3600 worth the extra £40 then?

Yes.

 

[killerk]

Would cutting the motherboard back to a B450-A PRO MAX be a good place to save the extra? Also as mentioned previously if I'm not overclocking will the stock cooler be acceptable in the cases listed?

 

[Gray2233]

Would cutting the motherboard back to a B450-A PRO MAX be a good place to save the extra? Also as mentioned previously if I'm not overclocking will the stock cooler be acceptable in the cases listed?

It's a decent board, the Mortar would be another option and would give you access to M-ATX cases if any took your fancy.

You're spending a pretty significant amount of your budget on a case it seems, I'd be looking at something for around £50-60 and spend the savings on better internals.

 

[mickyflinn]

Thanks, is the 3600 worth the extra £40 then?

I think so as the extra 2 cores will be beneficial as games utilize more cores, but budget dictates.

Google nvme v ssd and 4 v 6 core gaming, should help you decide.

 

[killerk]

Thanks, given me more to think about. I wanted a quality case which was quiet and relatively cool and could also hold 3.5" drives. Open to suggestions there.

 

[Gray2233]

Quick throw together example:

My basket at Overclockers UK:

• 1 x Aerocool Aero One Mini Eclipse ARGB Micro- ATX Case - Black Tempered Glass= £49.99
• 1 x AMD Ryzen 5 3600 Six Core 4.2GHz (Socket AM4) Processor - Retail= £169.99
• 1 x Phanteks AMP 550W 80 Plus Gold Modular Power Supply= £86.99
• 1 x Team Group Vulcan Z T-Force 16GB (2x8GB) DDR4 PC4-25600C16 3200MHz Dual Channel Kit - Grey= £59.99
• 1 x MSI B450M Mortar MAX (Socket AM4) DDR4 mATX Motherboard= £99.95
• 1 x Gigabyte GeForce GTX 1660 SUPER OC 6144MB GDDR6 PCI-Express Graphics Card= £218.99
• 1 x WD Blue SN550 1TB NVME M.2 2280 PCIe Gen3 Solid State Drive (WDS100T2B0C)= £109.99

Total: £795.89 (includes shipping: £0.00)
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- Case might not be to your taste but it does hold two 3.5" drives and comes fitted with four 120mm (RGB) fans, it has a mesh front so airflow is pretty solid.
- The SN550 is cheaper than the SN750 and there'll be no noticeable difference in real world use, it's also double the capacity of what you were looking at.
- 1660S is a decent jump in performance over the RX580.

You could drop down to the 500GB model of the SN550 and save £50 to put elsewhere.

 

[Quartz]

Would cutting the motherboard back to a B450-A PRO MAX be a good place to save the extra? Also as mentioned previously if I'm not overclocking will the stock cooler be acceptable in the cases listed?

Take a look instead at the Mortar Max. Micro-ATX, which would enable you to purchase a cheaper case.

My basket at Overclockers UK:

• 1 x MSI B450M Mortar MAX (Socket AM4) DDR4 mATX Motherboard= £99.95
• 1 x Kolink Citadel Mesh Micro-ATX Case - Black= £44.99
• 1 x AMD Ryzen 5 3600 Six Core 4.2GHz (Socket AM4) Processor - Retail= £169.99
• 1 x Corsair Vengeance LPX Black 16GB (2x8GB) 3600 MHz AMD Ryzen Tuned DDR4 Memory Dual Kit= £89.99
• 1 x Asus Radeon RX 580 Arez Dual OC 8192MB GDDR5 PCI-Express Graphics Card= £169.99
• 1 x WD Blue 3D NAND 500GB 2.5" SATA 6Gbps Solid State Drive (WDS500G2B0A)= £59.99
• 1 x Cooler Master Hyper 212 Evo CPU Cooler= £29.99
• 1 x Arctic Silver 5 Thermal Compound (3.5g)= £6.49

Total: £683.08 (includes shipping: £11.70)​

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Note that I've not included a PSU: so many are out of stock right now.

 

[mickyflinn]

Thanks, given me more to think about. I wanted a quality case which was quiet and relatively cool and could also hold 3.5" drives. Open to suggestions there.

You may also need an aftermarket cpu còoler if you want to keep things quiet as stock coolers are generally noisy under load.

 

[killerk]

The WD Blue sounds like a good switch and would save the extra for the 3600. Are the Phanteks P400s any good?

 

[Gray2233]

The P400s is a fantastic case.

 

[killerk]

Will it require additional fans?