It's already debateable if 4K is a noticeable increase on 1440p at most screen sizes and viewing distances. 8K would be a moronic target, it would be much more beneficial to double the frame rate.
Poll: *The Official PlayStation 5 (PS5) Thread*
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It's already debateable if 4K is a noticeable increase on 1440p at most screen sizes and viewing distances. 8K would be a moronic target, it would be much more beneficial to double the frame rate.
I will stick to my early statement - the specifications of the consoles are so close, that there will not be a single instance where a game is able to "only" play at 4k/30 on one and 4k/60 on the other.
I shall then expand my earlier statement and say that although the more powerful console will undoubtedly be able to put more details, more "flashyness" on the screen, that unless you're running the two versions side-by-side you really aren't going to notice them.
I'll then go off on a tangent and say that the PS5 will once again have the better game selection and have the games people really want to play.
Finally, I'll point out the slight irony of you "demanding we all speak the truth" but then call the new Spider Man game "DLC" - when it isn't, there is no requirement to own the original Spider Man, it is a stand-alone game. It'll also not be £50 - £60.
See? I did say that I wish to avoid triggering someone. @pioneer2000 please read more carefully next time when quoting others to avoid arguments and possible bans.
First thing is if you are addressing me which I think you were by quoting me, I would like to tell you that I am not biased towards XBOX. I have stated in the other thread that I hope they do good so that I won't have the need to upgrade my current PC build.
I also said that the Halo demo wasn't bad. I own a XOX, PS4 and a PC and I am too old to get into arguments online.
First thing is if you are addressing me which I think you were by quoting me, I would like to tell you that I am not biased towards XBOX. I have stated in the other thread that I hope they do good so that I won't have the need to upgrade my current PC build.
I also said that the Halo demo wasn't bad. I own a XOX, PS4 and a PC and I am too old to get into arguments online.
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I'd advise blocking him. I did a few years ago as he's just an idiot.
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How do you know the PS5 isnt the better hardware? Are you using the TF, as the only identifier for the better hardware? Seems to me that in plenty of other ways the PS5 is superior from what we know, audio, SSD, I/O etc, but we wont know for years to come in all honestly. Judging from what has been shown actually running on the consoles ie all the PS5 showcase, and nothing conformed to be shown on the series X then i can see why people would get the idea from. I think statements for either case are far to early at this point to be able to clarified, but people can make assumptions on what they have seen and from that base an opinion, in the end we all going to have to wait.
Christ on a bike do you even realise that you come across as a massive fan boy. To also make a comment about brain dead children you make stupid remarks "Sony defense force blah blah blah".
Someone point me to the block button please.
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No one can currently claim to have better audio? I've only seen some marketing speak that's been used on PC since I began using them. SSD is a given, but it's like the jump between SSD vs M2 in real life tests rather than benchmarks...
As you elude to, we can only state what is known. These two consoles are a big step up in power over the consoles they replace. Only thing we've been told is that there's a sustained 3TF between them and until we get them out to reviewers, the rest is marketing and hype.
A good friend of mine understands little of the tech, and he was annoyed last night because he'll have an even smaller hard drive than he has now. Although he hasn't seen a single game of interest yet, other than what is likely multi-platform. But it's the juggling of a couple games that he's worried about, as he expects them to all be rather large.
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We are being told that due to the speed of the storage there is little or no need to duplicate the assets in the final game file so in theory they could actually be smaller in size.
He has been the same since the PS3/360 days. Not sure why anyone is surprised!
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Haha nice one. I'll ignore the rest.
Whilst I do agree that Pioneer2000 has made some, frankly quite bizarre statements, I do think there is a lack of accountability and bewildering acceptance for some of the "pro-PS5" comments made in here.
I keep seeing it stated as fact that the differential between them will be 15% and unnoticeable and no one has questioned that (and that's quite frustrating for someone that is trying to weigh up an unbias summation of the two). Can anyone substantiate this claim? My understanding is that both the CPU and GPU in the PS5 will throttle down when under high demand (surely this is when you don't want them to throttle down?), so surely the differential quoted is a best case scenario for PS5?
I suspect the PS5 will be a minimum 15% less powerful, and when they start throttling down the GPU and CPU it could be substantially more due to having fewer CUs but at a higher clock.......and I really do not accept the company line that the super fast SSD will make that much of a difference - though I really do hope it will, but the difference between SSD and NVMe is immense on paper, but perceptible difference in reality it is minimal.
The one thing Sony does have is a vast and amazing portfolio of games to leverage, and much like Nintendo, I can imagine them being far more creative than the corporate Microsoft........though I have yet to see anything (bat Halo) that excites me from either!
I keep seeing it stated as fact that the differential between them will be 15% and unnoticeable and no one has questioned that (and that's quite frustrating for someone that is trying to weigh up an unbias summation of the two). Can anyone substantiate this claim? My understanding is that both the CPU and GPU in the PS5 will throttle down when under high demand (surely this is when you don't want them to throttle down?), so surely the differential quoted is a best case scenario for PS5?
I suspect the PS5 will be a minimum 15% less powerful, and when they start throttling down the GPU and CPU it could be substantially more due to having fewer CUs but at a higher clock.......and I really do not accept the company line that the super fast SSD will make that much of a difference - though I really do hope it will, but the difference between SSD and NVMe is immense on paper, but perceptible difference in reality it is minimal.
The one thing Sony does have is a vast and amazing portfolio of games to leverage, and much like Nintendo, I can imagine them being far more creative than the corporate Microsoft........though I have yet to see anything (bat Halo) that excites me from either!
Confusion regarding terminology aside (they're all SSDs), the perceptible difference is only minimal in applications which don't make proper use of the bandwidth. The PS5 isn't intended to use its storage in the same way a PC (or for that matter, any other console) does.
Hopefully when it comes out I can be convinced, but at the moment I have a healthy skepticism.
The Medium isn't an Xbox title. It's a launch exclusive. So expect it on PS5 either next year, or in 2022.
Also not sure it's on Game Pass for PC, sadly.
Yep, I recall when the live event was going on he was absolutely desperate to get a nibble and everyone ignored him
I hope for his sake he isn't any older than 14 or he needs some self reflection.Still not particularly impressed by anything yet. I like gamepass but I like the fact sony are treating next gen as such and not going backwards with the cross gen stuff that MS seem to be. Also, as someone who doesn't like alien shooters like Halo (halflife exception), there is nothing on offer.
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Yeah, think it's on Steam only for PC?
And rightly so, but they've already demonstrated how it'll work both in Cerny's presentation and in the most recent games reveal where certain games (e.g. Ratchet & Clank) were using the rapid storage to stream in game data without loading times. Ultimately it hinges on how well developers utilise it rather than whether the tech itself works.
Correct. From what I've seen of his behaviour in Motors, if you can somehow find a way to simultaneously criticise the Xbox and the Merc A-Class AMG, his head might explode.
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August 6th is the rumoured day for the next State of Play which will give the price and pre-order details.
I think late August, around GamesCom time, is a good candidate, too.