Is the GTR just not that fast when stock?

[Temujin]

In agreement to most of the ideas in the thread already, OP probably isn't going to feel much enjoyment moving to the GTR if it's to get more of a visceral feel of speed, unless you really raise the power level. But then as others have stated in general driving that probably won't have the desired effect, not if you want to keep your license.

Perhaps getting a dreary daily and a silly weekend toy would be more beneficial?

 

[Gibbo]

Quite a lot of modern performance cars are very launch control focused to make them look much faster on paper. You dont want to keep launching them though!

Most of the track focused cars (like the Lotuses and Caterhams etc) dont have launch control as there is no point. But once they get going they are like a missile. They can change speed and direction so quickly.

Most modern launch controls no longer cause any stress to drivetrain and hence do not void warranty any more. LC in the 458 is very tame and has no limit to use. Believe Porsche is similar, Jaguar don't have LC but zero need as the SVR's have so much instant down low torque. Not sure what score is on latest GTR's but they did use to limit the LC function due to gear boxes grenading. The more modern AUTO/DC launch control systems have improved vastly, just depends if you want to sit at traffic lights looking a nob with the engine going bap bap bap, lol.

 

[Six6siX]

GT-R is obviously quick - even in stock form, but stage 4/4.25 is like a different car.

Tbh if you're only interested in being fast 0-60 and launching, rolling or otherwise, then it's going to be a quick route to a GR6 rebuild or some rods saying hello

That said, it has mega road presence and with a few mods, sounds nice and becomes VERY quick - very little comes close imo. That's part of the appeal for me. There's plenty of mods about too in a typical Jap fashion.

However.... if you are getting bored of straight line speed and it's all you're after in a car, then you are going to need very deep pockets regardless of what platform you go for...

 

[sideways14a]

Get an Atom, you want silly speed and silly...ness.... well there is the answer.

Not practical though but hey.

 

[ianh]

In my experience the OEM maps on most modern turbo based high performance cars are designed to bring the torque on as smoothly as possible in a nice linear way to help heavy footed "everyday" drivers who might own the car. Once the car is remapped that "smooth" feeling is usually thrown away for a much more savage "Whump" in the back which gives a much more forceful "feeling" of acceleration.

So while the mapped A45 "felt" faster than an OEM GTR, once that GTR gets mapped - HOLY POOP!!!!!! You'll never believe that you were seriously worried about it not feeling fast when it has an extra 30% more torque!

For example, with my two RS6's the older V8 one was mapped and "felt" much harder hitting when you floored it, yet the OEM mapped V10 felt "sluggish" in comparison, even through the speedo showed it was accelerating much faster. After mapping that same "sluggish" V10 it then felt like a hammer blow in comparison and all due to the maps near 50% extra torque and the harder way that extra torque was brought on vs the smoother OEM map.

 

[Six6siX]

Exactly - it’s all about that extra torque and the delivery that makes all the difference.

Even some mapped GTRs can be very progressive, just less stress on the internals than coming on the power hard I guess. Still, a night and day difference from stock even then

 

[HangTime]

Your current car is faster than 99.9% of cars on the road which is probably why a stock GTR doesn't feel 'mind bendingly' fast as you are already used to an impractically fast car.
As others have suggested I think you may have to think outside the box to find what you are looking for, whether that be an electric car, a lightweight toy or whatever rather than chasing raw numbers.

 

[Richeh]

You guys realise this is a troll post right?

OP not replied since posting that a 3.4 sec 0-60 car feels slow and if you look at his other 'content' it's certainly interesting.

 

[vanpeebles]

You guys realise this is a troll post right?

OP not replied since posting that a 3.4 sec 0-60 car feels slow and if you look at his other 'content' it's certainly interesting.

I called it, and eveyrone just ignored me

 

[mccarf]

You guys realise this is a troll post right?

OP not replied since posting that a 3.4 sec 0-60 car feels slow and if you look at his other 'content' it's certainly interesting.

Didn't realise it's the "substandard cutlery" guy, this explains everything

 

[Six6siX]

Didn't realise it's the "substandard cutlery" guy, this explains everything

Have I missed an epic thread somewhere?!

 

[Kenai]

Have I missed an epic thread somewhere?!

https://forums.overclockers.co.uk/t...substandard-cutlery-when-dining-out.18893374/

 

[Six6siX]

https://forums.overclockers.co.uk/t...substandard-cutlery-when-dining-out.18893374/

Oh dear...

 

[silvagti]

 

[Stu999]

You guys realise this is a troll post right?

OP not replied since posting that a 3.4 sec 0-60 car feels slow and if you look at his other 'content' it's certainly interesting.

Plus I imagine most of his driving will be enhanced using green screens too

 

[dacads]

Would expect more power for a stage 4.25

There’s peeps pushing over 1000bhp but dread to think how much that would cost

 

[Dominic-Toretto]

You guys realise this is a troll post right?

OP not replied since posting that a 3.4 sec 0-60 car feels slow and if you look at his other 'content' it's certainly interesting.

Not a troll, not even sure how this would be a troll post? Just been busy so haven't had time to respond.

Thanks to everyone who's posted reading through the responses now.

 

[Mercenary Keyboard Warrior]

Would expect more power for a stage 4.25

There’s peeps pushing over 1000bhp but dread to think how much that would cost

Thats stage 4.3333 recurring

 

[Nasher]

In my experience the OEM maps on most modern turbo based high performance cars are designed to bring the torque on as smoothly as possible in a nice linear way to help heavy footed "everyday" drivers who might own the car. Once the car is remapped that "smooth" feeling is usually thrown away for a much more savage "Whump" in the back which gives a much more forceful "feeling" of acceleration.

So while the mapped A45 "felt" faster than an OEM GTR, once that GTR gets mapped - HOLY POOP!!!!!! You'll never believe that you were seriously worried about it not feeling fast when it has an extra 30% more torque!

For example, with my two RS6's the older V8 one was mapped and "felt" much harder hitting when you floored it, yet the OEM mapped V10 felt "sluggish" in comparison, even through the speedo showed it was accelerating much faster. After mapping that same "sluggish" V10 it then felt like a hammer blow in comparison and all due to the maps near 50% extra torque and the harder way that extra torque was brought on vs the smoother OEM map.

Most modern cars are tuned to be tame and easy to handle. Also to get the best possible results on emissions tests, which does choke performance quite a bit.

Sport cats or primary/secondary cat removal, better exhaust, remap etc can fix that quite easily.

For tuning modern cars, don't just add more top end power. Focus on improving the low and mid range.

 

[Rroff]

Most modern cars are tuned to be tame and easy to handle. Also to get the best possible results on emissions tests, which does choke performance quite a bit.

Sport cats or primary/secondary cat removal, better exhaust, remap etc can fix that quite easily.

Normal driving profile on many cars is now an "eco" mode - you can tell the difference between for instance slightly older VW Tiguans and newer ones in response, etc. with essentially the same engine and electronics but if you stick it into one of the sports profiles/mode it will undo all of that (assuming the vehicle has a sport mode or profiles which any performance vehicle almost certainly will).