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Soldato
Looks massive compared to the baby RR!! (evoque)
Soldato
You should see it behind the smart car outside our Airbnb.
Enjoy it mate, lovely spot, mind the roads though, some proper stupid BMW drivers in the surrounding areas
Just had some fun getting through
Flushing!
Caporegime
I like it but do worry that it's lost the charm of the original...that being it was easy to replace pretty much anything on it with only a basic toolkit.
Soldato
I agree. The new Defender is more like what the Discovery 5 should have been for me.
The new Wrangler, for example, still has removable doors and windscreen. The new Bronco looks awesome and comes with a manual. This doesn't feel like a Defender.
The new Wrangler, for example, still has removable doors and windscreen. The new Bronco looks awesome and comes with a manual. This doesn't feel like a Defender.
Caporegime
Ok now youre not even trying.
It's what some in the press have been saying too.
They built it as a workhorse and not a posing car. It's also compact and much cheaper. There is no contest which one will be more reliable too
Soldato
I totally agree, and hence both were terrible above 60mph.
Can’t buy it in the UK anyway, for the same reason the defender original stopped being sold - emissions. You can the new Defender though - it’s clean, green and mean, oh and “generic”.
I guess quoting something with a 1,300 kg towing rating compared to something rated at 3500kg which is only a cap based its GVM and hence capable of far more - meeting Colorado River Davis Dam test gives is a clue to how out the Masher factor is on that statement.
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Caporegime
It's what some in the press have been saying too.
They built it as a workhorse and not a posing car. It's also compact and much cheaper. There is no contest which one will be more reliable too
But the Jimny is tiny, isnt it? With little engines etc. Not a big clunking off roader made of sheets of pig iron with a antiquated diesel engine, or a big petrol one.
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It's ladder frame with a low range box.
Caporegime
Ah right.
Associate
My boss borrowed a new defender from a dealership for a test drive and found a serious design flaw - you can't open the boot door very far when you have a horse box attached to the towbar due to the design of the way the door opens (sideways, not upwards). Looking at the photos he took, the door will foul on lots of stuff being towed (it certainly would on the fuel box for my caterham trailer). Sounds niche, but given the customer base for defencders thats a pretty big miss.
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Is it a much bigger door than the old defender then? This was the case on the old one too with the door hitting the latch mechanism on the trailer I've dealt with.
Associate
That's what he found - its bigger enough than his old defender than the angle the door can open to is quite a bit different
You should see it behind the smart car outside our Airbnb.
Just had some fun getting through
Flushing!
Haha I feel your pain, the DPD cornwall drop off point for most of cornwall is there, it's a bleddy tiny shop down the narrowest street ever! Silver lining; decent pub there (seven stars)
Soldato
I like how using a bike lock to secure the spare wheel is still a thing 
Soldato
it’s a good point. Of course primary reason is for the spare wheel mounting and the pure weight won’t work, also doesn’t work well for bikes on tow balls etc. Our MINI With OEM bike rack will tip to allow the boot to open, also you miss the shelter feature when raining. It’s not so much of a flaw, just a conscious decision, a boot mounted spare wheel would have significantly compromised the departure angle.
Caporegime
Saw this e23 728 on Hilton Park services yesterday, not seen an e23 in years never mind one as clean & tidy as this was.