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It's highly probable, but she would have used her phone to do it and the ad appeared on my phone which is hundreds of miles away from her.



Probably the best suggestion, to be honest. I'll be calling her tonight but I won't discuss dog food because I just typed that! I'll think of something random. :)

They build up a database of your connections and locations. As they already know you both live in the same house with the same surname, your relative distance on a single given day is irrelevant. If the wife's googled it the it's highly likely you'll be targeted with similar advertising to promote a purchase.

Alexa on the other hand, that thing is always listening and you can see some of what it's recorded on your Amazon account. I've honestly just given in with it all, it's not like I talk about anything important (nappies and paw patrol mainly) at home anyway.
 
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Busted are an English rock band from Southend-on-Sea, Essex, consisting of James Bourne, Matt Willis and Charlie Simpson. Formed in 2000, the band had four UK number-one singles, won two Brit awards, released four studio albums and sold over 5 million records. The band released Busted in 2002 and A Present for Everyone in 2003 before disbanding in January 2005.[5] Following the split, all three members pursued separate musical careers: Simpson as the frontman for the post-hardcore band Fightstar, Bourne as the lead singer of pop punk band Son of Dork and Willis as a solo artist.

According to the British Phonographic Industry (BPI), Busted have been certified for 2.4 million albums and 1.2 million singles in the UK.[6]

In November 2013, Willis and Bourne announced plans to tour together with McFly as the "supergroup" McBusted in 2014, and this continued into 2015. On 10 November 2015, it was revealed that Simpson had rejoined Busted after successful secret writing sessions. The band then embarked on the Pigs Can Fly arena tour[7] in May 2016 and released their third studio album, Night Driver, on 25 November 2016.

On 26 October 2018, Busted announced their fourth album Half Way There, released on 1 February 2019, as well as a UK arena tour.[8]

History
2000–2002: Formation, Busted and rise to fame
James Bourne and Matt Willis originally auditioned for another band which neither of them made it into. They remained friends for a number of years and wrote material together. Willis claimed that they had been inspired by Green Day, Blink-182 and BBMak.[9] Busted were formed in early 2000,[10] after open auditions were held by Warner Music to form a new band, and originally consisted of Bourne, Willis, Ki Fitzgerald and Owen Doyle,[11] although this version of the band broke up later that year.[12] Charlie Simpson and Tom Fletcher auditioned to be in the band and were both offered a place to complete the lineup.[13] 24 hours later, however, Busted's manager told Fletcher via a phone call that the band was to go ahead as a trio, comprising Bourne, Willis and Simpson.[14]

The band was launched in August 2002, making their first appearance on the cover of Smash Hits with the headline: "Meet Busted: They're Going to Be Bigger than Rik Waller!", making it a first for any pop band to appear on the magazine's cover before releasing a single.[15] Their debut single, "What I Go to School For", inspired by a teacher that Willis had a crush on at school, was finally released in September 2002. It reached number three on the UK Singles Chart. Their debut album Busted was then released, initially charting only around the UK Top 30 and receiving mixed reviews from critics. The follow-up "Year 3000", which was written about Bourne's obsession with the film Back to the Future, then followed in January 2003, reaching number two in the UK chart. In April, their third single, "You Said No" finally reached number one. British Hit Singles & Albums certified them as the first act ever to have their debut three singles enter the top three in an ascending order.[16]

Recording began for their second album while the debut album was re-released with new tracks and an enhanced CD section. It would go on to sell 1.2 million copies by the end of the year. The debut album's final single, "Sleeping with the Light On", reached number 3 in August 2003, beaten to number one by Blu Cantrell's "Breathe".[17]

2003–2005: A Present for Everyone and split
Busted started the summer of 2003 with a win for Favourite Newcomer at the National Music Awards, as well as Best Band at that year's Disney Channel Kids' Awards. After this, the band launched the promotional trail for their new album, A Present for Everyone and its lead single "Crashed the Wedding", which reached number one in the UK chart. Edgier than their previous album, Simpson said that it had some "harder, Good Charlotte type vibes coming through on this album". This album would also go on to reach sales of over 1 million copies.

During 2003, Charlie met fellow songwriter-guitarist Alex Westaway and drummer Omar Abidi at a party. He was by this stage becoming increasingly frustrated by the music he was performing in Busted and stated he had "all of this creativity pent up inside and I just needed to vent it somewhere, and I was writing a lot of songs but I couldn't play them, because I didn't have anyone to play them with". During the aforementioned party, an impromptu jam session took place. Simpson, Westaway, and Abidi played Rage Against the Machine's song "Killing in the Name" on loop, and agreed to attend a gig a few days later. After the show, they went back to Simpson's flat and began performing on guitars and a v-drum kit, which led to their first song being written, titled "Too Much Punch". Westaway later invited bassist Dan Haigh to practice with the band and soon began booking regular rehearsal sessions together, under the name Fightstar.

2004 was to prove their final year together as a band. The band performed a successful arena tour to start the year before reaching number one and number two with "Who's David" and "Air Hostess", respectively. The band picked up Best British Breakthrough Act and Best Pop Act at that year's BRIT Awards.[18]

The band then headed over to America to release a self-titled album that was a mixture of their first and second album. Their exploits were captured for the TV series America or Busted, about Busted's attempts to achieve success in the United States, which ultimately failed. The show debuted on MTV UK in November of that year, over the course of the series, it saw Busted's attempts to 'break' America dwindle as interviews fell through and performances remained limited both in terms of audience size and press attention.

Whilst the band were out in America, they were then invited to record the theme tune to the brand new Thunderbirds film that was coming out that summer. Released as a double A-side with the album track, "3AM", it gave them their fourth and final number one in August 2004, staying at the top for two weeks, the longest they had ever spent at the top. However, the release of the fifth single from their second album, "She Wants to Be Me" failed to chart due to its lone formats being a download and a limited edition pocket sized CD, both of which breached chart regulations at the time. Their live album, A Ticket for Everyone, was released in November peaked at number eleven. The band embarked on another sell-out tour that November, and Busted gained a record of the band to play the most consecutive sellout dates at Wembley Arena, eleven nights. At the end of 2004, Busted were involved in the UK number-one Christmas single,[19] Band Aid 20's "Do They Know It's Christmas?"[20] with money raised helping to combat HIV and AIDS across Africa, famine relief in the Darfur region of Sudan and aid relief in many countries, such as Ethiopia.[19]

Simpson's time spent with Fightstar reportedly began to cause tensions within the band,[21] amplified when Fightstar announced a 14-date UK tour.[22] Simpson announced to Busted's manager on 24 December 2004 over a phone call that he was leaving the band to focus on Fightstar full-time.[23] On 13 January 2005, Busted's record label announced that a press conference was to be held at the Soho Hotel in London the following day.[24] The next day, the 14th, it was then announced that Busted were splitting up after Simpson's departure weeks before.[21]

In an interview with Kerrang! in November 2009, Simpson said, "It was a real fun thing to be doing, and I got on well with everyone I was doing it with, but on the other side, the music wasn't really fulfilling me. I have good memories of the time because we were traveling the world and doing some amazing things, but then as far as self-fulfillment goes, it wasn't really doing a lot for me, so I have these mixed views when I look back. But there's no doubt that it was an amazing thing to do".[25]

2006–2012: Solo projects and bands
Charlie began pursuing a solo career after playing in Fightstar, a post-hardcore band which differs greatly from the sound of Busted.[26] They formed a year prior to Busted's split. To-date they have released one EP and four albums: They Liked You Better When You Were Dead,[27] Grand Unification,[28] One Day Son, This Will All Be Yours,[29] Be Human[30] and Behind the Devil's Back, all being released in both the UK and the US. They have also released an album of b-sides and rarities, "Alternate Endings".[31] Fightstar announced a hiatus at the beginning of 2010, stating that they were "taking some time off" to work on separate projects before regrouping to begin working a new record. After their 2014 reunion and 2015 album, Fightstar began to describe themselves as a "passion project" rather than a full-time band, as the members focus on other projects. Simpson released a solo acoustic album called Young Pilgrim, which peaked at number 6 in the UK Albums Chart in 2011, followed by the 2014 album Long Road Home.

James went on to release music through pop punk band Son of Dork,[32] but is now pursuing a solo career under the name of Future Boy.[33] Bourne has also written songs for many artists, including Melanie C,[34] McFly,[35] JC Chasez,[36] Patrick Monahan,[37] and the Jonas Brothers. From 2007– 2008, he was one of the main songwriters for the ITV musical drama, Britannia High.[38]

After a brief stint in rehab after the Busted split,[39] Matt set up a solo career,[40] releasing singles in 2006 and 2007, "Up All Night", "Hey Kid", "Don't Let It Go to Waste", and "Crash" for the film Mr Bean's Holiday,[41] all except the latter of which were included on his album Don't Let It Go to Waste. Matt also appeared on, and was crowned winner of, the 2006 series of I'm a Celebrity...Get Me Out of Here!.[42] After being dropped from his record label,[43] Willis has turned to presenting. So far he has presented at the Brit Awards[44] and more recently ITV2's I'm a Celebrity...Get Me Out of Here! NOW! alongside his wife, Emma,[45] the pair are due to get together again for E!, presenting the BAFTAs.[46] On Willis' Myspace, he has stated that he is currently writing with his new band, yet to be named.[47] From February to November 2012, Matt Willis starred as Fiyero in the musical Wicked in London's West End where he received mixed reviews. It 2013 he also appeared in West End Men with fellow musical star Lee Mead at the Vaudeville Theatre in London for a limited time.

In 2010, some sources suggested that, after a £1 million offer, Busted would reform for a tour and possibly a new album.[48] Charlie denied that he would return to Busted, stating, "I wish Matt and James all the best with their future projects but I want to make it unequivocally clear that I have no interest what-so-ever in re-joining Busted and I never will", but James wrote on his Twitter page, "I'll ******* get up and do it any time, any day, anywhere".[49]

2013–2015: McBusted
Main article: McBusted
From 19 to 22 September 2013, Willis and Bourne made a surprise brief reunion as Busted when they joined McFly as special guests during the band's four 10th anniversary concerts at the Royal Albert Hall. They performed "Year 3000", "Air Hostess" and McFly's "Shine a Light" with McFly under the name 'McBusted'.[50] McFly and Busted confirmed a 2014 tour together. Simpson said through Twitter that although he would not be joining the new supergroup, he wished them the best of luck in the future.[51] McBusted released their debut album McBusted on 1 December 2014. They then embarked on another sold out UK tour, McBusted's Most Excellent Adventure Tour.

Willis also revealed that Busted had been approached to star in the ITV2 series The Big Reunion, but turned it down because "it didn't feel right for our band."[52]

2015–2016: Simpson's return, comeback tour and Night Driver
On 5 October 2015, The Sun rumoured that Simpson was set to rejoin Busted.[53] After this, a photo made its way around the internet that showed the three members of Busted silhouetted in front of a red background. Words appeared to be blurred out at the bottom of the image, but above that was the words "Join us for a special announcement Tuesday November 10th 2015". This implied that the band was reuniting, with further speculation that the three would embark on a reunion tour together. On 10 November 2015, Busted announced a thirteen-date arena tour in the UK and Ireland would take place in May 2016.[54] At the same press conference Busted announced their third studio album.[55] 100,000 tickets were sold in the first hour of being put on sale. Subsequent tour dates were added as a result of high demand.[56]


Busted performing in Glasgow during the Pigs Can Fly Tour (2016)
Regarding his decision to rejoin the band, Simpson told Newsbeat: "I reckon I said it [so many times], privately and publicly, and I meant it every single time. But as I say I have changed my mind and that has been down to the circumstances changing. I never thought we would get to a point where we were in a studio writing music we all got behind creatively and that was a huge shock to me".[57]

In early 2016, Busted recorded their third studio album in Los Angeles. On 17 March 2016, Bourne told a fan on Twitter that Busted would decide the release date for their third album that day.[58] It is scheduled for release in the Autumn. The band have also insisted that their reunion is for the long-term; as Bourne told Digital Spy, "We want this to be something that is ongoing. Anything we write now goes towards album four".[59] On 4 April 2016, Busted announced that their tour would be called the Pigs Can Fly Tour 2016 and would include Wheatus and Emma Blackery as special guests. Regarding the title, Willis told Newsbeat, "The whole pigs can fly thing sums up how we feel about this. There have been times that we thought Busted could never, ever possibly happen and we were quite right in thinking that. But this summarises that anything is possible".[60] In an interview with Digital Spy, the band revealed that their fans will get a taste of their new sound before their reunion tour and that their eleventh single will be released in the summer, and their album would follow in the autumn.

On 25 April 2016, it was officially announced that South African drummer Cobus Potgieter, popular on YouTube, would be the supporting drummer for the band during the tour.[61] On 3 May, Busted released "Coming Home", their first new song for 12 years, as a free download from their website.[62] During the 'Pigs Can Fly' tour, Busted premiered two new tracks titled "Easy" and "One of a Kind", from the upcoming 2016 album. Chalmers, president of East West, said: "Watching Busted play live over the past few weeks and seeing people respond to their music and energy has been amazing. Busted have a huge global fanbase who are going to be really excited to hear the new music the guys are working on. They've managed to combine the classic Busted sound with a modern twist, it's sure to remind people of why they love them. We're really happy to be working with Charlie, Matt and James".[63]

On 14 July 2016, Busted revealed that the "final touches" to the album were complete.

On 18 August 2016, it was announced by BBC News that a musical based on the band's history written by Bourne and Elliot Davis was to be staged, What I Go to School For will depict the group's rise to fame. It will be performed at the Theatre Royal Brighton in August 2016 and will feature songs like Air Hostess, Crashed the Wedding and Year 3000. If the show is a success Bourne and Davis have said they would like to take it to the West End.[64]

On 9 September 2016, Busted revealed that their third album would be called Night Driver.[65]

On 3 May 2016, "Coming Home" was released as a promotional single from the album. On 30 September 2016, "On What You're On" was released as the first official single from the album. Another song, entitled "Easy", was unveiled on 18 October 2016. Two days later, on 20 October 2016, Busted announced that due to production delays, the album release would be pushed back to 25 November 2016. The same day, Busted released a video for "Easy" filmed live at Pool Studios.[66]

On 23 October 2016, the band made their first TV performance in over 12 years on The X Factor to perform "Year 3000" with the contestants.[67]

2017–present: Half Way There
In June 2017 Busted flew to Los Angeles to perform their first American re-formed gig at the Troubadour and continue writing and begin recording for their planned fourth album.[68][69]

In April 2018, it was confirmed the album would release in Q1 2019, and the band would return to their original sound.[70] In May that year, Cobus Potgieter, who had previously stood in as drummer on Busted's 2016 tour, announced that he would be the studio drummer for the upcoming fourth album.[71]

On 26 October 2018, Busted announced that their fourth album Half Way There (a reference to a lyric in the song "Year 3000") would be released on 8 February 2019. The album features a cover of James Bourne's song, "What Happened to Your Band", which was previously performed by his band Son of Dork and recorded by McBusted[72], and returns to the roots of their musical style. The first single of the album, "Nineties", was released in the first week of November 2018. Additional songs from the album, "Reunion" and "All My Friends" were released December 14 and 15 respectively (the latter was an exclusive release for those that had pre-ordered the album from the band's online store[73]). In January 2019, Busted released their second single for the album, "Radio".[74] This was accompanied by a music video.[75] The band performed a secret set at Slam Dunk Festival in May 2019, on the Key Club Stage (Right). The band performed under the pseudonym "Y3K", a reference to their song Year 3000.[76]

On 8 June 2019, Busted were invited up on stage to perform "Year 3000" with the Jonas Brothers at Capitol's Summertime Ball 2019 as special guests.

On 31 December 2019, band member James Bourne announced a new solo project but reassured Busted fans that the band was not splitting-up, tweeting "After twenty amazing years making music, I am stepping into 2020 on a brand new solo adventure. Busted will always be my band. But, I’ve dreamed for years about releasing my own album so here we go."[77]

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Yesterday my son showed me a photo of the guide dog he is supporting/funding on his iPad.
Today my partner and me both have guide dog adverts on our Facebook feed, on completely separate devices.

In the past i've had bike Insurance adverts popup on Facebook, which included photos of my bike embedded into the advert banner.
 
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Well I'm in Spain at the moment and the only TV channel we can get in English is Dmax. The Mrs had gone out with friends so I watched a couple of episodes of Wheeler dealers. Now I have never watched this in England, ever, yet the same day a suggestion popped up on Facebook for Ed China, one of the presenters.

I've never searched for this guy or the program, so I found it very strange.
 

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Well I'm in Spain at the moment and the only TV channel we can get in English is Dmax. The Mrs had gone out with friends so I watched a couple of episodes of Wheeler dealers. Now I have never watched this in England, ever, yet the same day a suggestion popped up on Facebook for Ed China, one of the presenters.

I've never searched for this guy or the program, so I found it very strange.
Well, Facebook know your nationality and current location and provide suggestions based on algorithms which could exploit that by showing you searches performed by similar people (same nationality and current location).
 
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Well, Facebook know your nationality and current location and provide suggestions based on algorithms which could exploit that by showing you searches performed by similar people (same nationality and current location).
Yeah, that sounds plausible.
 
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I've decided to edit the OP in an attempt to ward off the usual keyboard warrior approach that's now way too frequent in this section of the forum.

I'm genuinely interested in what steps people take to protect their privacy with their gadgets, particularly your phone. Please share your tactics (if any).

On my Google feed today, I have noticed two articles that are quite bespoke. For example one is this article: https://www.dekkobird.com/how-to-paint-kitchen-cabinets-my-own-kitchen-refresh/

My wife is currently painting kitchen cupboards (it's a tactic, she wants a new kitchen and thinks I was born yesterday :p). I'm away from home right now, and the communication about the kitchen refresh has been purely pictures of her work sent over WhatsApp and verbal conversation, again using WhatsApp.

There was another article in the feed today, and again the subject was definitely only discussed verbally last night via WhatsApp. I am not impressed with this, it goes beyond privacy violation IMO.

How can I address this? Amend settings that I'm unaware of? Switch away from Android?

People are taking the **** out of you but you're actually right.

My wife started to get lots of ads for Bepanthen the day after driving her friend back from getting a tattoo. She knew that he friend had mentioned getting some to help the tattoo heal but my wife had never searched for it online or anything like that.

Initially I thought her or her friend must have used her phone to look for it and forgotten but it turns out that she was right. They used Google maps to get back home and that records your voice in case you're giving voice commands to the mapping app. After some googling she even managed to get hold of the recordings where they were talking about the cream. So you're probably not crazy.
 

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People are taking the **** out of you but you're actually right.

My wife started to get lots of ads for Bepanthen the day after driving her friend back from getting a tattoo. She knew that he friend had mentioned getting some to help the tattoo heal but my wife had never searched for it online or anything like that.

Initially I thought her or her friend must have used her phone to look for it and forgotten but it turns out that she was right. They used Google maps to get back home and that records your voice in case you're giving voice commands to the mapping app. After some googling she even managed to get hold of the recordings where they were talking about the cream. So you're probably not crazy.
Not just... location was inside a Tattoo parlour? Has to be keyword voice scanning?

Has Google admitted to this process anywhere, or is it all speculation?
 
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I'm genuinely interested in what steps people take to protect their privacy with their gadgets, particularly your phone. Please share your tactics (if any).

Simple, I don't use 'em. Or if you're forced to (win 10) limit it as much as possible. And funnily enough I don't get any targeted ads whatsoever, come to that other than TV I don't see any at all.
 
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Easy solution ref the above, just buy Apple products.

At least I’ve got an Apple Phone and Laptop. Tablet is a Kindle (great value for money and only need it for reading text books and watching Amazon Prime & Netflix) so don’t really care about data/adverts on there.

PC is just a Linux box and doesn’t have much on it.
 
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Every time I go into the music thread where Raymond Lin is talking about his Positive amp I get adverts on Facebook.
We've discussed this before on here where OCUK have code on their pages.

here you go, just went to the OCUK page and this came up immediately in Facebook

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@bignev72 thanks for sharing, it seems to have been a very similar experience to mine.

Easy solution ref the above, just buy Apple products.

This is what I'm considering; owning an iPhone for the first time. I might also ditch the Android tablet for an iPad eventually.

Analysing conversations is a step too far for me, it's definitely crossed a line and I couldn't give two ***** about small print.

ETA: you've got to laugh... :p

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@bignev72 thanks for sharing, it seems to have been a very similar experience to mine.



This is what I'm considering; owning an iPhone for the first time. I might also ditch the Android tablet for an iPad eventually.

Analysing conversations is a step too far for me, it's definitely crossed a line and I couldn't give two ***** about small print.

ETA: you've got to laugh... :p

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Just stop using products made by surveillance capitalists.
 
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So after our discussion in this thread about talking about something to see if it would appear in my Google feed, we decided to talk about something we hadn't discussed previously, or exchanged images, or searched for online etc.

We decided to talk about buying a new car. And 48hrs later, here it is, the smoking gun as far as I'm concerned.

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