The £1000 segment isn't the big seller though, it's much lower. An enthusiast forum distorts this as there's a disproportionate number of higher end cards owned by posters.
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NVIDIA ‘Ampere’ 8nm Graphics Cards
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3070 should be 400-500 range. 3080 600-750. Anything more I think you might as well buy a console. Nvidia is shafting us all. We will what AMD does and to what extent it provokes a price competition. A 3070 @ £400 would be fantastic but I am probably out of my mind for saying thatPut me down for a fiver on
3090 £2000-2500
3080ti £1500-2000
3080 £1000
3070 £750
One reason why AMD aren’t bothered by being the fastest card. The market is small compared to mid range and high end. Sell 10,000 bleeding edge cards and make $300 per card or sell 2 million mid range and make $100 per card?
Bicycle?
Or let nV be first to market by several months (every single time) and sell not much of anything
bring it on, time for the ti to ti jumpa bit more perf at 4k will be nice
If they don’t have HDMI 2.1 then I won’t be bothering.
Soldato
Lets also not forget that they've got a massive boon with both consoles touting their hardware, meaning 'powered by AMD' will make more and more people look at them for PC gaming as well, so they might start selling way larger volumes once the mind share is there.
It feel it falls down for AMD when their cards aren't represented at the top-end of the benchmark tables. When the 30XX release there'll be a sea of green.
They are trying to avoid that mistake this time. I hope they have a card that can compete with the 3080. It will give us gamers better value. The first month or two, the ampere cards will be overpriced as hell due to shortages and lack of competition. Might have to wait until Cyber Monday/ Black Friday to get anything decent if the cards do laumch end of September/October.Or let nV be first to market by several months (every single time) and sell not much of anything
Thats one way of looking at it, another way of looking at benchmarks is which ones can I afford and how do they fare against each other, and is there a performance advantage to one card in any of my favorite games e.g. PUBG & Witcher 3 - Nvidia.
Soldato
I'm not sure it makes a difference to console gamers who makes the APUs.
The margins on the kit in the consoles will be razor thin though. Maybe single digit $ per unit. But if they then sell 20 million of them, jobs a good one!
Caporegime
I don't really get why they use APUs in consoles. With the size of these upcoming two they surely have room for larger discrete chips.
$100-200 million over 5 years isn't really worth getting out of bed for if you're AMD.
Would have to be more than that.
Soldato
Could be single digit per CPU and the same for GPU. Given they power both systems they won’t care who comes out on top. It’s a good place to be and is almost guaranteed income.
Don't you feel that in recent years cycling has gone the same way as GPUs as prices have sky rocketed?
I hope for the same, 3070 2080ti beating perf at £399 would be great. Coupled with there being so much to buy, AMD new cards, plus ryzen 4000 and xbox and ps5, make that £399 £350 nvidia3070 should be 400-500 range. 3080 600-750. Anything more I think you might as well buy a console. Nvidia is shafting us all. We will what AMD does and to what extent it provokes a price competition. A 3070 @ £400 would be fantastic but I am probably out of my mind for saying that
Rumour mill time, this is coming from motherboard manufacturers.
Everyone who owns a PCIE4 AMD motherboard is going to be happy, Intel owners who do not are going to be sad face.
So apparently some of the new RTX3000 cards are able to saturate PCIE 3.0 x16. Now because Intel currently has no desktop CPU that supports pcie4, this means RTX3000 GPUs will run faster on AMD x570 systems and B550 systems.
Rocket Lake S from Intel was suppose to launch at the end of this year so Intel owners could get maximum benefit from RTx3000 but now they cannot - they will have to wait while AMD systems will have higher GPU performance
Everyone who owns a PCIE4 AMD motherboard is going to be happy, Intel owners who do not are going to be sad face.
So apparently some of the new RTX3000 cards are able to saturate PCIE 3.0 x16. Now because Intel currently has no desktop CPU that supports pcie4, this means RTX3000 GPUs will run faster on AMD x570 systems and B550 systems.
Rocket Lake S from Intel was suppose to launch at the end of this year so Intel owners could get maximum benefit from RTx3000 but now they cannot - they will have to wait while AMD systems will have higher GPU performance