NVIDIA ‘Ampere’ 8nm Graphics Cards

ALXAndy · 2 Sep 2020 at 00:14

aoaaron said:
Is 3080 worth it to upgrade a 2080?

Wait and see.

tyler_jrb · 2 Sep 2020 at 00:14

Vertigo1 said:
As I commented in another thread, history will look back at the 2080Ti as a lemon.

£1200, only 30% faster than a 1080Ti and now beaten by a sub-£500 card only two years later.

That’s progress. People have waited 2 years or more perhaps for this kind of performance where some of us have been able to enjoy it for that length of time. Just the way things are. People will buy 3090 that’s worth £14-1500 and in 2 years it will be worth next to nothing again. Just the way the gpu market goes.

Jimmy Weirdarms said:
Who's been ****** over?

Boughtthe card, used the card, enjoyed the card. Yeah it was pricey, but it was also the best on the market for a couple of years.

People are weird.

Couldn’t agree more. Has given me some great experiences.

Gerard · 2 Sep 2020 at 00:15

https://imgur.com/a/ZlJyy8d

So that's how airflow works for the fe cards. Not as extravagant as the design would make you think.

opethdisciple · 2 Sep 2020 at 00:16

IT Troll said:
Not any time soon though.

Also.

Sounds like we will be on the next gen cards before this is commonly used tech.

By certain systems I think they mean with supported hardware. I.e RTX 3000 or RDNA2 GPUs.

CAT-THE-FIFTH · 2 Sep 2020 at 00:16

Gerard said:
https://imgur.com/a/ZlJyy8d

So that's how airflow works for the fe cards. Not as extravagant as the design would make you think.

That is going to suck for mini-ITX systems!

Also,I hope people have decent CPU cooling,that hot air is being dumped right onto the motherboard!

Jimmy Weirdarms · 2 Sep 2020 at 00:17

Vertigo1 said:
The basic facts though are that they released a very overpriced card, judged by its price/performance relative to the previous generation, and have now released a far superior card at a far lower price only two years later. By any measure that is screwing 2080Ti buyers to some degree.

Not really, there's always a next big thing round the corner. Are 2070S owners "screwed" because they paid 3070 prices a year ago?

The only people who think anyone was screwed are the same folks who think it was too expensive in the first place.

roysters · 2 Sep 2020 at 00:18

Gerard said:
https://imgur.com/a/ZlJyy8d

So that's how airflow works for the fe cards. Not as extravagant as the design would make you think.

Rip cpu cooler temps

Gerard · 2 Sep 2020 at 00:18

CAT-THE-FIFTH said:
That is going to suck for mini-ITX systems!

Also,I hope people have decent CPU cooling,that hot air is being dumped right onto the motherboard!

Mounted vertically it would, normal horizontal mounting would send it out the back or top of the case.

JohnG7 · 2 Sep 2020 at 00:18

Gerard said:
https://imgur.com/a/ZlJyy8d

So that's how airflow works for the fe cards. Not as extravagant as the design would make you think.

I seen that in live video and wonder how CPU air coolers will cope (since that photo has no air cooler fitted assuming WC but still blasting Mosfets/VRM's with hot air.)

FloatingPoint · 2 Sep 2020 at 00:18

Gerard said:
https://imgur.com/a/ZlJyy8d

So that's how airflow works for the fe cards. Not as extravagant as the design would make you think.

Exactly. Also no reason that the cards available are as extravagant as shown.

Grim5 · 2 Sep 2020 at 00:19

roysters said:
Rip cpu cooler temps

RIP people who use AIR colers on their CPU, people who use front mount AIO CPU coolers are LOLING

CAT-THE-FIFTH · 2 Sep 2020 at 00:19

Gerard said:
Mounted vertically it would, normal horizontal mounting would send it out the back or top of the case.

For sandwich mini-ITX cases the coolers wouldn't work. The rear of the card will be blocked.

ALXAndy · 2 Sep 2020 at 00:19

Vertigo1 said:
Of course everyone's experience is different and you have to make the value judgement for yourself.

The basic facts though are that they released a very overpriced card, judged by its price/performance relative to the previous generation, and have now released a far superior card at a far lower price only two years later. By any measure that is screwing 2080Ti buyers to some degree.

I don't agree with that. People only get screwed if they allow themselves. IE - by mugging themselves off and selling something for 1/3 of what they paid for it.

These cards (the 3080 and 3090) are for 4k 60 with RT enabled. If there is a single part about that you don't need then there is no reason on earth to sell a 2080Ti. At all. GPUs now last FAR longer than they used to. You would get two years tops before before the settings started making your card cry. That doesn't happen any more. My Titan XP was still capable of 110 FPS in COD MW. My 2080Ti with RT on maxed out and overclocked (yeah I got a good one) does this.

If that isn't good enough for someone? I am not sure what to say. It all comes down to want and need. Every time you want you lower your guard and you allow yourself into a situation you really shouldn't. If that is your disposition? then no one can help you.

BTW in before the accusation.

2StepSteve · 2 Sep 2020 at 00:20

I can understand why 2080ti owners are feeling a bit sour, the value of your card has just taken a huge whack.

But then again.. £1200 is an insane amount of money to pay for a single component, my thoughts on this will never change. You go top tier, you pay the above and beyond price, much like the soon to be owners of the 3090 will be doing. I never have and never will shell out this amount for a GPU.

The cost is definitely lower than I was expecting for the initial reports on 3080 performance though.

Vertigo · 2 Sep 2020 at 00:20

Jimmy Weirdarms said:
Not really, there's always a next big thing round the corner. Are 2070S owners "screwed" because they paid 3070 prices a year ago?

Well you could argue that they were to some degree as the 2070S was only the same performance as the 1080Ti. Even so, those are probably still going to be worth around £250-300 so maybe £200 loss in a year, half what the 2080Ti lost each year.

The only people who think anyone was screwed are the same folks who think it was too expensive in the first place.

It was too expensive. The only people who think otherwise are those who forked out for one.

Gerard · 2 Sep 2020 at 00:20

FloatingPoint said:
Exactly.

It really seems to be taking axial fans which are usually open air coolers and making them blower style to an extent with the air being put out the back for one of the fans at least. As the rear fan is in the gpu area the front fan might not have that much heat to deal with.

ALXAndy · 2 Sep 2020 at 00:21

2StepSteve said:
I can understand why 2080ti owners are feeling a bit sour, the value of your card has just taken a huge whack.

But then again.. £1200 is an insane amount of money to pay for a single component, my thoughts on this will never change. You go top tier, you pay the above and beyond price, much like the soon to be owners of the 3090 will be doing. I never have and never will shell out this amount for a GPU.

The cost is definitely lower than I was expecting for the initial reports on 3080 performance though.

we're not sour we are bitter. There's a difference you know.

Jimmy Weirdarms · 2 Sep 2020 at 00:21

2StepSteve said:
I can understand why 2080ti owners are feeling a bit sour, the value of your card has just taken a huge whack.

Who's feeling sour?

CAT-THE-FIFTH · 2 Sep 2020 at 00:21

TBF,if you already have a decent GPU and it runs your games fine,you don't NEED to upgrade.

The longer you wait between upgrades,the bigger the improvement you will get.

opethdisciple · 2 Sep 2020 at 00:21

I don't think a 3080 will be an overpowered card at 1440p. It might be a 4k card but once the next gen games drop and you turn RT on you will need as much power as you can get.

Also it seems the 3080 can natively do RT at 1440p.