NVIDIA ‘Ampere’ 8nm Graphics Cards

Trick · 4 Sep 2020 at 11:27

Interesting tweets by Hardware Unboxed today. I’ll be waiting for the reviews before I decide whether to buy a 3080 as I just don’t trust Nvidia’s likely cherrypicked figures. Stumping up 650 without some independent analysis would be bonkers

ASUS GPU Support · 4 Sep 2020 at 11:27

rchads89 said:
top asus card is now £850 on the 3080 just pure greed and has deffo p*ssed me off so I won’t be buying Asus at all. @ASUS GPU Support

Just so you know the pricing on the ROG Strix is currently a placeholder and not confirmed yet, so please stay tuned. We're lining the TUF up to be great performance and cost, but the ROG Strix we will always try to push the GPU even further to create great performance.

deuse · 4 Sep 2020 at 11:28

Alphacool will be doing the FE cards once they get one sent in.

That will do me

0121danwilliams84 · 4 Sep 2020 at 11:28

opethdisciple said:
Waterblocks.

Still doesn't make sense. I've seen PG132 (Reference design) listed for a founders edition on https://www.techpowerup.com/gpu-specs/geforce-rtx-3080.c3621

0121danwilliams84 · 4 Sep 2020 at 11:34

0121danwilliams84 said:
Still doesn't make sense. I've seen PG132 (Reference design) listed for a founders edition on https://www.techpowerup.com/gpu-specs/geforce-rtx-3080.c3621

All 3090 cards are listed as PG 132 SKU 30

All 3080 cards are listed as PG 132 SKU 10

Smiffy-UK · 4 Sep 2020 at 11:34

robfosters said:
My tale of eBay graphics card woe, but with a happy ending for a change

https://www.overclockers.co.uk/foru...ell-its-the-same-card.18867736/#post-33107642

Thank you for that, a lot of great info in the outcome I'll make sure I follow when selling old parts, I myself haven't had issues with fleabay, but I'll definitely get a UV pen and take more pictures.

KiNgPiN83 · 4 Sep 2020 at 11:37

banbom44 said:
Bloke on Youtube called Bang4buck gamer and he was really rubbing it in in his latest video saying if you have a 2080ti and have not moved it on yet you must feel like killing yourself because you have lost 300 to 400 quid he said you should have been smarter and moved it on sooner he sounds like a right arrogant **** i hope he gets a chargeback.

I still think we need to wait for some proper benchmarks to be honest. Because if the non RTX performance isn't a massive jump ahead there may not be as much of a need to upgrade.

Vertigo · 4 Sep 2020 at 11:42

ASUS GPU Support said:
Just so you know the pricing on the ROG Strix is currently a placeholder and not confirmed yet, so please stay tuned. We're lining the TUF up to be great performance and cost, but the ROG Strix we will always try to push the GPU even further to create great performance.

I think what prospective buyers are really after right now is the basic specs of the cards (i.e. boost speeds) and whether they're using the reference PCB.

Can you confirm that such details are indeed embargoed and when this lifts?

Greebo · 4 Sep 2020 at 11:54

deuse said:
Alphacool will be doing the FE cards once they get one sent in.

That will do me

I am sure EK will be as well. The issue normally is that it can be a couple of months waiting.

Smiffy-UK · 4 Sep 2020 at 11:54

There's an embargo on Ampere architecture lifting today. According to Video cards on twitter just now.

"Block diagrams, some performance details etc."

rchads89 · 4 Sep 2020 at 11:55

ASUS GPU Support said:
Just so you know the pricing on the ROG Strix is currently a placeholder and not confirmed yet, so please stay tuned. We're lining the TUF up to be great performance and cost, but the ROG Strix we will always try to push the GPU even further to create great performance.

Ill stay tuned ofcourse. waiting for the speeds to be updated im expecting a big change in speeds from the rog strix if there price is there or there abouts on release!

Quartz · 4 Sep 2020 at 12:00

If the framerates are so high with RTX on, I wonder what they're like with RTX off?

Twinz · 4 Sep 2020 at 12:01

Poneros said:
What I was referencing (but based on my own testing with a Vega):

https://twitter.com/i/web/status/1301796954398101504

Two things:
1) The 1% lows don't seem to show a "stuttery mess" for any of the cards. So if the 2080 is limited by its vram, it doesn't crash and burn when it happens.

2) The IGN doom eternal video puts the 3080 against the 2080Ti, which has more vram than the 3080, and the 2080 Ti still gets its @$$ kicked in that same title...even at 4k.

aoaaron · 4 Sep 2020 at 12:02

jonneymendoza said:
LG CX??

is that a TV?

Yup, a HDMI 2.1 4k 120hz HDR OLED capable TV with instant pixel response time and low input lag with best in class SDR/HDR performance and the best black levels in the tech business with pixel level control.

Greebo · 4 Sep 2020 at 12:02

All the pre overclocked boards all have very conservative over-clocks so far. Only 2.6%, 45Mhz.

Compared with up to 200Mhz with the 2000 series.

danlightbulb · 4 Sep 2020 at 12:06

ASUS GPU Support said:
Just so you know the pricing on the ROG Strix is currently a placeholder and not confirmed yet, so please stay tuned. We're lining the TUF up to be great performance and cost, but the ROG Strix we will always try to push the GPU even further to create great performance.

I think its really good to have the reps come on here and be a part of the forums. Obviously the value in this from our point of view is getting information, so whatever you are allowed to put out publicly, please do so.

On the draft pricing of the Strixx - it is a bit of an excessive jump at this range I think. The price point of the 3080 as set by Nvidia is pretty competitive, and that's why I'm thinking of buying one! If the prices are one to two hundred higher then that changes the affordability for me. I'd of course rather buy a good card than a base model but not at any price.

But that said, look forward to seeing more info come out hopefully direct from you reps.

Jordan Taylor · 4 Sep 2020 at 12:10

Twinz said:
Two things:
1) The 1% lows don't seem to show a "stuttery mess" for any of the cards. So if the 2080 is limited by its vram, it doesn't crash and burn when it happens.

2) The IGN doom eternal video puts the 3080 against the 2080Ti, which has more vram than the 3080, and the 2080 Ti still gets its @$$ kicked in that same title...even at 4k.

I think HUB have this wrong TBH. Their Doom Eternal 2080 testing is an outlier.

rchads89 · 4 Sep 2020 at 12:11

Greebo said:
All the pre overclocked boards all have very conservative over-clocks so far. Only 2.6%, 45Mhz.

Compared with up to 200Mhz with the 2000 series.

Really?

chroniclard · 4 Sep 2020 at 12:13

Greebo said:
All the pre overclocked boards all have very conservative over-clocks so far. Only 2.6%, 45Mhz.

Compared with up to 200Mhz with the 2000 series.

Wonder if they are also placeholders or just initial conservative estimates.

Poneros · 4 Sep 2020 at 12:14

Twinz said:
Two things:
1) The 1% lows don't seem to show a "stuttery mess" for any of the cards. So if the 2080 is limited by its vram, it doesn't crash and burn when it happens.

2) The IGN doom eternal video puts the 3080 against the 2080Ti, which has more vram than the 3080, and the 2080 Ti still gets its @$$ kicked in that same title...even at 4k.

re 1) Yes, because it doesn't go over the limit too hard & it has enough bandwidth to compensate. Remember, there's a big difference between going 0.5-1GB over the limit, and going 2 GB or more over the limit. The more you have to tax the storage & RAM, the worse the experience will then be. It's not an on/off situation where it's either a complete mess or perfect. There's steps in between.
Plus, the 1% lows aren't enough, you really need a frametime graph ideally. Like how computerbase does it.

See what I mean? The problem is when the swap happens, not for 100% of the time. So you'll definitely notice it during gameplay, but it might not appear as severely in 1% lows and the like (or averages for that matter).

2) Okay?