Which MB of these? Or?

WhiteHawk77 · 5 Sep 2020 at 03:35

Hey guys, it’s upgrade time for me, picking up a 10900k and one of the new 30 series cards, I need a £300ish board with plenty of USB’s, a couple of M.2’s, 6 SATA’s and just in case it actually works out with PCIe Gen 4 support, so far I’ve got these, what do people think.

Gigabyte Z490 Aorus Ultra

MSI Meg Z490 Unify

Thanks.

Grimley · 5 Sep 2020 at 06:59

Gigabyte for the better after sales service.

orbitalwalsh · 5 Sep 2020 at 15:42

Aorus Pro AC for £200 on sale and save cash over Ultra. Same VRM Ifni can remember

WhiteHawk77 · 5 Sep 2020 at 16:56

orbitalwalsh said:
Aorus Pro AC for £200 on sale and save cash over Ultra. Same VRM Ifni can remember

There doesn’t seem to be a Aorus Pro AC with the Z490 chipset, there is an AX version for £250.

WhiteHawk77 · 5 Sep 2020 at 16:58

Also just discovered that a number of people are having issues with the Gigabyte boards when they attach a graphics card it’s not booting or something, anyone heard of this?

orbitalwalsh · 5 Sep 2020 at 19:55

WhiteHawk77 said:
There doesn’t seem to be a Aorus Pro AC with the Z490 chipset, there is an AX version for £250.

Sorry, my bad. Getting confused with Elite and Pro visions. Elite version now out of stock for £200

WhiteHawk77 said:
Also just discovered that a number of people are having issues with the Gigabyte boards when they attach a graphics card it’s not booting or something, anyone heard of this?

Post up links. Gigabyte has a rep on here via @GIGA-Man . Very active . Finding out issues can then lead them to getting solved.
Only one I know on this forum is on b350 or 450 using APU

Joxeon · 5 Sep 2020 at 22:19

It's a lot to spend on a CPU/MB that you may find gets outclassed by AMDs 4000 CPUs in gaming just a few weeks from now, also to get gen 4 support you would have to upgrade the CPU to Intel rocket lake when they are released but they are rumoured only have 8 cores max so would be more of a downgrade.

WhiteHawk77 · 6 Sep 2020 at 00:09

Joxeon said:
It's a lot to spend on a CPU/MB that you may find gets outclassed by AMDs 4000 CPUs in gaming just a few weeks from now, also to get gen 4 support you would have to upgrade the CPU to Intel rocket lake when they are released but they are rumoured only have 8 cores max so would be more of a downgrade.

Intel still has the lead in gaming performance not just in FPS but frame rate stability, and that’s all I really care about, I doubt if AMD manage to surpass Intel in gaming it will be by much and I’m not doing any work type stuff where those extra cores on the AMD side I know would make a difference

I also know about the fact I will have to change CPU in the future to unlock the PCIE Gen 4 capabilities of the board, I’m just given myself the choice in the future of not needing to also change motherboard as well if I decide it matters.

WhiteHawk77 · 6 Sep 2020 at 00:17

orbitalwalsh said:
Sorry, my bad. Getting confused with Elite and Pro visions. Elite version now out of stock for £200

Post up links. Gigabyte has a rep on here via @GIGA-Man . Very active . Finding out issues can then lead them to getting solved.
Only one I know on this forum is on b350 or 450 using APU

There’s complaints about the issue on Amazon and here for example on Reddit: https://www.reddit.com/r/gigabyte/c..._source=amp&utm_medium=&utm_content=post_body with some people being able to fix it with bios flash but others not being able to fix it.

LeMson · 6 Sep 2020 at 08:51

I googled frame rate stability Intel vs amd and didn't find much, where you comparing them from?

ssjninjamonkey · 6 Sep 2020 at 09:58

LeMson said:
I googled frame rate stability Intel vs amd and didn't find much, where you comparing them from?

Maybe YouTube videos? I'm in the same boat, I vastly prefer Intel and the margin for gaming wins out for me too

LeMson · 6 Sep 2020 at 10:37

ssjninjamonkey said:
Maybe YouTube videos? I'm in the same boat, I vastly prefer Intel and the margin for gaming wins out for me too

Unless you're a pigeon the fps difference is marginal -> https://www.techpowerup.com/review/intel-core-i9-10900k/15.html same for 1440p and 4k on the next 2 pages. Just wondering where your seeing frame rate stability, seems like a woo term or am I blind and missing it on reviews?

mickyflinn · 6 Sep 2020 at 10:54

LeMson said:
Just wondering where your seeing frame rate stability, seems like a woo term or am I blind and missing it on reviews?

Probablly means the 1% lows.

ssjninjamonkey · 6 Sep 2020 at 11:05

LeMson said:
Unless you're a pigeon the fps difference is marginal -> https://www.techpowerup.com/review/intel-core-i9-10900k/15.html same for 1440p and 4k on the next 2 pages. Just wondering where your seeing frame rate stability, seems like a woo term or am I blind and missing it on reviews?

It was just a guess I'm not sure where he's getting his information but there's no denying the currently driver at the top is Intel. Yes it's marginal but still there. Real world it won't matter ofcourse.

Joxeon · 6 Sep 2020 at 11:28

ssjninjamonkey said:
It was just a guess I'm not sure where he's getting his information but there's no denying the currently driver at the top is Intel. Yes it's marginal but still there. Real world it won't matter ofcourse.

It is but then you need a powerful Gpu and a 1080p monitor to take advantage of the few extra FPS. I don't think many people buying that sort of hardware would be playing at 1080p unless your big into Fps shooters.

Also with zen 3 on the way in a few weeks bringing a 20% improvement we might be seeing a changing on the guard at the top end so imo it's worth waiting a few weeks to see unless you desperatly need a PC right now as you either don't have one or your current PC is a real spud.

LeMson · 6 Sep 2020 at 12:06

mickyflinn said:
Probablly means the 1% lows.

Gsync will cover those, they aren't really an issue?

ssjninjamonkey · 6 Sep 2020 at 12:14

Joxeon said:
It is but then you need a powerful Gpu and a 1080p monitor to take advantage of the few extra FPS. I don't think many people buying that sort of hardware would be playing at 1080p unless your big into Fps shooters.

Also with zen 3 on the way in a few weeks bringing a 20% improvement we might be seeing a changing on the guard at the top end so imo it's worth waiting a few weeks to see unless you desperatly need a PC right now as you either don't have one or your current PC is a real spud.

I keep hearing numbers thrown around on their increase anything from 10 to 15 % now 20%

Hardware is fun. I say if op wants to get his 10900k it's likley best to just offer advice based on that rather than just tell him to wait becuse ryzen.

Shante · 6 Sep 2020 at 12:51

Betwen those I go with MSI

orbitalwalsh · 6 Sep 2020 at 13:39

WhiteHawk77 said:
There’s complaints about the issue on Amazon and here for example on Reddit: https://www.reddit.com/r/gigabyte/c..._source=amp&utm_medium=&utm_content=post_body with some people being able to fix it with bios flash but others not being able to fix it.

Haven't come across any on here for z490

WhiteHawk77 · 6 Sep 2020 at 18:40

LeMson said:
Gsync will cover those, they aren't really an issue?

Don’t have Gsync.