Is NVIDIA sabotaging their own Ampere launch?

[The Old School Gamer]

The --->rumours<--- of the RTX 3080 Super and a RTX 3070 Super just will not go away.
In my opinion this really throws into doubt if we should be buying their 8Gb and 10Gb cards at launch.

The 3070 Super stands to potentially get a small increase in CUDA / SM cores and 16Gb of the faster GDDR6X VRAM over the standard 3070.
(If true that card would be pretty damn awesome).

What are your opinions on this?

Credit to: wccftech.com

 

[LeMson]

It depends on amd and nvidia don't want to lose so....

 

[Alghazanth]

So which is it, october or next year?

 

[The Old School Gamer]

Starting to think the smart thing to do is just wait this one out for a couple of months and let NVIDIA, AMD, Microsoft and Sony battle it out.

 

[agw_01]

Starting to think the smart thing to do is just wait this one out for a couple of months and let NVIDIA, AMD, Microsoft and Sony battle it out.

True, but there will still be masses of people who want these cards on release day and so NVIDIA know they will win either way.

 

[five8five]

I thought the rumour of short supply for the 3080 and 3090 was "very strong" and now we have nvidia releasing new skus within a month.

Another rumour said that GDDR6X was in very short supply so 20GB cards would be next year at the earliest.

So many rumours..........

 

[The Old School Gamer]

I want one at launch, but to be honest we are going to be getting a raw deal if they release these super cards shortly afterwards.
And there is one feeling I hate... buyers remorse for making a bad judgement call.

 

[Gerard]

I very much doubt they would launch the super/ti variants so soon, their hq would have the pitchfork and torch brigade outside it. They'll likely be a few months down the line.

 

[Alghazanth]

I want one at launch, but to be honest we are going to be getting a raw deal if they release this super cards shortly afterwards.
And there is one feeling I hate... buyers remorse for making a bad judgement call.

Yep, same here. If I could be guaranteed of a) availability and b) prices not climbing I could comfortably wait until mid-november at least when Cyberpunk launches. But since there's no guarantees of either, I just hope we get some compelling evidence about the variants before the 17th.

 

[Poneros]

I'm snagging one either way, before some filthy miner gets it. Worst case I'll sell it off & buy a different variant later.

 

[Eiji]

Wouldn't surprise me if GPUs with more than 10GB VRAM are released next month by nVidia.

Still getting one at launch though as I'm upgrading after a few years from a 1080 Ti but will think twice next time.

 

[The Old School Gamer]

I very much doubt they would launch the super/ti variants so soon, their hq would have the pitchfork and torch brigade outside it. They'll likely be a few months down the line.

Well that's the lines I was thinking along as well, it would be at least Q1 or Q2 before we saw these higher spec cards.
Then again we keep under estimating NVIDIA's ability to screw us over, their own customer base.
So I'm not sure when I see these kind of rumours.

Yep, same here. If I could be guaranteed of a) availability and b) prices not climbing I could comfortably wait until mid-november at least when Cyberpunk launches. But since there's no guarantees of either, I just hope we get some compelling evidence about the variants before the 17th.

I agree.
Britain's exit from Europe could effect pricing in the new year as well.
Inflation could pop due to greater import difficulties / tariffs.
But these cards are mainly shipping in from further a field than Europe so it might not be an issue.

 

[Chapchap27]

The 3080 is still the one for me-GDDR6X is not cheap so a 3080 Super would be a lot more money (rumours they will cost $999) for a few (or maybe 10) % points of performance.

 

[g67575]

It's pretty doubtful. There was gap of 10 months between the releases of the RTX 2080 and RTX 2080 Super.

They want to sell lots of RTX 3080s and 3090s first, they haven't even been released yet lol. For most customers, either of these would be a significant upgrade already. They are hoping people will pay a premium for the 3090 to get a large amount of VRAM.

How annoyed would (most) customers be if they brought an expensive, brand new product, only for it to be superceded by a similarly priced model a few weeks or months later?

AMD usually offers high end models with a choice of VRAM amounts, they are more concerned with providing good bang for buck.

Nvidia are so far ahead they barely have to try to compete, generally consumers only buy AMD if they can't afford to pay more for an equivalent Nvidia graphics card.

 

[Perfect_Chaos]

It's possible they wait for AMD to show or reveal info of their cards, which might be today, and then Nvidia have time still to announce the cards with extra vram before they are actually launched.

 

[g67575]

People will mostly buy Nvidia GPUs regardless (I heard they have 80% market share in graphics cards). They are rolling in cash and they will make plenty more this year, with the GPUs already announced.

They don't need to make all the profit this year, they can make more profit if they rerelease improved cards in 10-12 months.

They might bring the release forward if AMD has a 2nd RDNA 2 launch next year, perhaps with an improved fab. process like 7nm+ (EUV). AMD will probably make most of their profit from Series X and PS5 sales, it's where most of their attention is focused for RDNA 2.

 

[IT Troll]

2GB GDDR6X chips do not exist. So the only way to do a 20GB 3080 now is with 3090 type design. £££

16GB 3070 can however be done simply with the existing PCB.

 

[IT Troll]

So which is it, october or next year?

Both? October 2021?

 

[Dontrocktheboat]

Highly doubt it.

If by some miracle AMD were to release Navi tomorrow and it beats 3080 we might get this scenario....

But those are all big ifs .

 

[ukxenon]

once AMD have released their cards we will get more info.....hold on it will not be long lol