BMW and M Power Owners

[TW]Fox · 15 Sep 2020 at 21:57

Dis86 said:
It's universally panned for its poor handling

It's an SUV.

Dis86 · 15 Sep 2020 at 21:59

[TW]Fox said:
It's an SUV.

Not sure where you're going with that! As pointed out it's remarked as being worse than the X3 whereas the RR's and Porks are praised for theirs, the macan in particular being great.

Jonnycoupe · 15 Sep 2020 at 22:06

Don’t worry I was joking with my comment about praying. The X3M is a smart looking car. Handling is about how the car feels and communicates grip to you. Doesn’t matter the segment.

[TW]Fox said:
What's with all the aggression? Seems like a nice enough car and crucially the actual base car is fairly decent, not sure the same can be said for the RR Sport.

Your kidding right? :eek:

Anyway with X3 is more of an F Pace SVR and with the F Pace facelift launched today there will probably some pretty decent around for those.

J1nxy · 15 Sep 2020 at 22:25

Dis86 said:
It's universally panned for its poor handling and ride quality with the common question being why have they made it worse than the X3?

It not universally panned at all as there are a not insignificant number of review that say it actually handles well, there are as I've said some who don't like the ride comfort but the owners forum has both sides of the story so I'll decide when I drive it for a while.

The base spec is very high and with the options I've got even higher which I'm very pleased with.

Could have bought something good is a dumb statement even by the levels often shown on the internet...even if it doesn't handle like a lotus and go like a McLaren its not exactly a bad car

J1nxy · 15 Sep 2020 at 22:30

Jonnycoupe said:
Don’t worry I was joking with my comment about praying. The X3M is a smart looking car. Handling is about how the car feels and communicates grip to you. Doesn’t matter the segment.

Indeed that is how I took your comment and if the Jag dealers had stopped being muppets I might have bought an Ipace

Jonnycoupe · 15 Sep 2020 at 22:35

Oh great

muon · 16 Sep 2020 at 00:21

Well I was joking as well.

theone8181 · 16 Sep 2020 at 06:17

I assumed it was due to physics, suv can't handle as well as lower cars due to the raised cog. Porsche will probably do a good job of reducing the issue, but I can't imagine a macan handling as well as a 911, much like an X3 can't handle as well as a 3 series.

On a side note I just looked up the x3m, and it uses the same engine as the 340's, I wonder if the new m3/4 will share it as well.

paradigm · 16 Sep 2020 at 07:14

theone8181 said:
On a side note I just looked up the x3m, and it uses the same engine as the 340's, I wonder if the new m3/4 will share it as well.

No they don’t. The X3M uses the S58. The x40i cars use the B58.

jamoor · 16 Sep 2020 at 19:30

I can't see anyone buying electric BMWs for a long time if they think this is how they should be lol.

https://www.autocar.co.uk/car-news/new-cars/new-bmw-ix3-electric-suv-priced-£61900-uk

theone8181 · 16 Sep 2020 at 19:52

paradigm said:
No they don’t. The X3M uses the S58. The x40i cars use the B58.

Sorry I missread it, said it's based on the b58. Looks as thought the m3 will use it as well (at least according to wiki).

[TW]Fox · 16 Sep 2020 at 19:53

jamoor said:
I can't see anyone buying electric BMWs for a long time if they think this is how they should be lol.

https://www.autocar.co.uk/car-news/new-cars/new-bmw-ix3-electric-suv-priced-£61900-uk

Why?

Because it doesn't do 0-60 in a pointless 2 seconds flat like a Tesla presumably?

Jonnycoupe · 16 Sep 2020 at 19:54

[TW]Fox said:
Why?

Cos it’s expensive and only 2WD?

[TW]Fox · 16 Sep 2020 at 19:55

Jonnycoupe said:
Cos it’s expensive and only 2WD?

It seems expensive to me but then so are most full EV cars currently so can't see how that's a unique issue with the X3.

Jonnycoupe · 16 Sep 2020 at 19:57

This one is made in China, crammed into an existing platform and has the one of the smallest batteries for the segment.

I’m still amazed at the dismissal of a Range Rover Sport earlier in this thread aswell. I think you’ve lost your touch Foxy.

[TW]Fox · 16 Sep 2020 at 19:59

Jonnycoupe said:
crammed into an existing platform

I see this as a benefit though, I can't be the only one that just wants an electric version of a conventional model rather than some sort of space age bespoke jelly mould.

tsinc80697 · 16 Sep 2020 at 20:01

Finally managed to get someone to take a video of me in my M3 on track, can never really tell how it sounds on the inside except for LOUD

https://www.instagram.com/p/CFJ1JBBnfTR/

A lot of bugs were harmed in this picture.

Jonnycoupe · 16 Sep 2020 at 20:05

[TW]Fox said:
I see this as a benefit though, I can't be the only one that just wants an electric version of a conventional model rather than some sort of space age bespoke jelly mould.

I can’t see the logic - it’s multi powertrain so essentially compromised. Little battery and only RWD is the result. EQC is the similar but atleast they got all 4 wheels turning!

[TW]Fox · 16 Sep 2020 at 20:15

It's largely a road car, so why is rwd an issue?

jamoor · 16 Sep 2020 at 21:21

Jonnycoupe said:
Cos it’s expensive and only 2WD?

It's ridiculously expensive, more than its main competitor
It's comically slow in both acceleration and top speed (although the latter doesn't matter much) its about as fast as a leaf.
It's covered in garish blue trim for some odd reason.
It lacks a fast charging network to make long distance travel easy.