Nobody has ruled out an 80 CU Big Navi so I do NOT know where you got "the fact" that Biggest Navi will not have 80 CU. All evidence seems to point to 80 CU for biggest Navi and 64 for lesser models.
I made no such claim. Re read it.
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Nobody has ruled out an 80 CU Big Navi so I do NOT know where you got "the fact" that Biggest Navi will not have 80 CU. All evidence seems to point to 80 CU for biggest Navi and 64 for lesser models.
Nvidia only have that massive market share due to having better cards, not because they’re produced by Nvidia.
This has been shown to be untrue quite a few times. There's been many many instances where AMD had the better card at a particular price point and nVidia still outsold -- this is because the card says "nVidia"
You could argue that it's whoever has the top card, regardless of pricepoint, that gets the better end in sales down the stack - but given that AMD haven't had that top crown for a hot minute, that's tough to verify. This is kinda my intuition - if AMD had the fastest card for 2 generations back to back I think we'd start to see the situation reversing.. but I'm not convinced that's a likely test scenario.
I think even when they had the 9700/9800 and they were great card, Nvidia outsold them but could be wrong.
Having your card being the flagship card is a key contributor to mindshare. People want to have the piece of mind they're buying from the company who makes the "best" card.
This has been shown to be untrue quite a few times. There's been many many instances where AMD had the better card at a particular price point and nVidia still outsold -- this is because the card says "nVidia"
You could argue that it's whoever has the top card, regardless of pricepoint, that gets the better end in sales down the stack - but given that AMD haven't had that top crown for a hot minute, that's tough to verify. This is kinda my intuition - if AMD had the fastest card for 2 generations back to back I think we'd start to see the situation reversing.. but I'm not convinced that's a likely test scenario.
I think even when they had the 9700/9800 and they were great card, Nvidia outsold them but could be wrong.
For years I've heard about Nvidia's 'mind share' but I have never really appreciated how strong it was until a couple of days ago when the released the RTX 3080. Fanboys on Twitter and other platforms were losing their minds because they were unable to get a hold of one of these cards. Traffic on the OCUK store was so high the site slowed down to a slow crawl and eventually crashed...... twice. Just reading through some of the threads on here and see a bunch of new users and users with a handful of posts for accounts that were opened years ago.
It doesn't matter how good RDNA2 is, AMD will never be able to match a company who has crafted such a customer base. Nvidia killer? At best this is a good Nvidia alternative.
As a prospective 3090 owner, though unlikely to be able to get one on my birthday no less next week, I just need more grunt to try to drive 4K/120. If only AMD would surprise us all and at least tease us with something right up there prior to their release next month.
It may just be an announcement too, AMD haven’t actually provided launch dates have they?
This has been shown to be untrue quite a few times. There's been many many instances where AMD had the better card at a particular price point and nVidia still outsold -- this is because the card says "nVidia"
You could argue that it's whoever has the top card, regardless of pricepoint, that gets the better end in sales down the stack - but given that AMD haven't had that top crown for a hot minute, that's tough to verify. This is kinda my intuition - if AMD had the fastest card for 2 generations back to back I think we'd start to see the situation reversing.. but I'm not convinced that's a likely test scenario.
I totally agree with you, although I do question their release methods. They appear to have coincided with the console release and not directly with the nvidia release. If they'd released specs, benchmarks or a few reviews ahead of nvidia, more people may have waited. Their time frames are rather odd but I'm looking forward to what they will be like.
If they can pull something out the bag, like match the 3080 for 100-150 less, they'll be onto a winner. Fingers crossed.
AMD have tried many different approaches, and nothing helped them to pull the die-hard Nvidia users in increase their market share (not even when the 5850/5870 destroyed the GTX285 and the HD7970 destroyed the GTX580...so people that suggesting AMD just need to have the fastest card they got no clue, especially when that accounts for like less than 3% of the market).Nothing from what I've seen. Their marketing department needs some work :/
This has been shown to be untrue quite a few times. There's been many many instances where AMD had the better card at a particular price point and nVidia still outsold -- this is because the card says "nVidia"
You could argue that it's whoever has the top card, regardless of pricepoint, that gets the better end in sales down the stack - but given that AMD haven't had that top crown for a hot minute, that's tough to verify. This is kinda my intuition - if AMD had the fastest card for 2 generations back to back I think we'd start to see the situation reversing.. but I'm not convinced that's a likely test scenario.
AMD have tried many different approaches, and nothing helped them to pull the die-hard Nvidia users in increase their market share (not even when the 5850/5870 destroyed the GTX285 and the HD7970 destroyed the GTX580...so people that suggesting AMD just need to have the fastest card they got no clue, especially when that accounts for like less than 3% of the market).
I'd love that to be true, I prefer going straight to manufacturer unless the AIB is performing better AND no more than £50 more expensive. £200-£300 markups from AIBs really is taking the pi$$.There was the suggestion that the top-end card would be from AMD in order to cut out the leaky AIB partners
I hope Intel does come out swinging with Xe, anything to spice up the market and boost performance/reduce prices is good for all of us. Three big players in the CPU AND GPU space will speed progress immensely.Here's a leak that came in sometime ago:
https://www.kitguru.net/components/...and-dg2-graphics-cards-specs-may-have-leaked/
Intel is going MCM with Xe, if they are able to pack even 2 of those, Nvidia's pants are down and AMD will be holding emergency shareholder events
+1, AMD do well with market share whenever they have decent products, fanboy loyalty starts to unravel when and if you have a significantly faster product at the same price or a similarly performant product significantly cheaperI disagree. If AMD came out with a product that was good enough people would certainly buy them. Nvidia only have that massive market share due to having better cards, not because they’re produced by Nvidia.
However, GPU’s do seem to bring out some sort of tribalism for a minority of people. Definitely brings out the fanboyism amongst a few on here.
Bring out a 3090 beating card AMD and you already have a sale from me and many many others!