NVIDIA ‘Ampere’ 8nm Graphics Cards

[Jimmy Weirdarms]

I still feel that the A.I./DLSS is just an excuse for Nvidia to flog compute cards to gamers. If AMD takes the performance crown/handily beats NVidia, I would not be surprised if they drop Tensor cores like a rock and just pack the chips with more transistors that directly contribute to raster performance.

If they can get DLSS into more games then the difference between "DLSS" and "native" becomes meaningless, and the chip real-estate for raster+tensor seems to be less than for "much more raster".

If AMD takes the perfomance crown I'll eat my hat*, shortly before buying an AMD card...

* after commissioning a new hat, made of cake

 

[Zeed]

Water block

 

[humbug]

Looks like the Paper 3080 is for charity, i like that, a bit of fun for a good cause.

 

[Chuk_Chuk]

If they can get DLSS into more games then the difference between "DLSS" and "native" becomes meaningless, and the chip real-estate for raster+tensor seems to be less than for "much more raster".

If AMD takes the perfomance crown I'll eat my hat*, shortly before buying an AMD card...

* after commissioning a new hat, made of cake

DLSS is trained on a per game basis, by Nvidia's super computer. A super computer that they will want to use for other more important research tasks or they may even rent out to external researchers. Considering the costs invovled (cost of the machine and the electricity bills) I don't see DLSS making it into a significant proportion of games using the current method of implementation. It is way too costly for Nvidia to implement it per game to please a bunch of gamers who paid a measly £1200 for a GPU.

 

[Jimmy Weirdarms]

DLSS is trained on a per game basis, by Nvidia's super computer. A super computer that they will want to use for other more important research tasks or they may even rent out to external researchers. Considering the costs invovled (cost of the machine and the electricity bills) I don't see DLSS making it into a significant proportion of games using the current method of implementation. It is way too costly for Nvidia to implement it per game to please a bunch of gamers who paid a measly £1200 for a GPU.

If they're banking on their sales being based on DLSS capability, I would presume this "super-computer" will be dedicated to the task.

DO you have real cost data or are you just guessing?

 

[N19h7m4r3]

Just let me buy the 3090 already! I got Among Us to play in 8k!

 

[Safetytrousers]

It turns out the 8nm should be in quotation marks not the Ampere:
14nm and 7nm are NOT what you think it is - Visiting Tescan Part 3/3 - YouTube

 

[HRL]

I've seen a few people try to suggest that with the architecture changes and extra Cuda cores, that current games are unable to take full advantage of Ampere, but future games will and so Ampere will age like fine wine.

Is there any truth to this or is it just polony?

You should ask in the AMD thread. They’re experts on fine wine.

 

[Chuk_Chuk]

If they're banking on their sales being based on DLSS capability, I would presume this "super-computer" will be dedicated to the task.

DO you have real cost data or are you just guessing?

No i don't know exactly how much Nvidia's supercomputer cost to run. What i do know that in general a supercomputer are expensive to run. There is the electricity bill, cooling bill, the cost of land, the manpower to maintain the equipment. There is also the cost of the computer itself.

If it was quick/cheap to stick DLSS in games we would have it in more games by now. My assumption is that they are working it in around more significant projects. Which is why we have a handful of games with DLSS after 2 years.

If they are going to put it in a significant number of games they would probably want to build a dedicated super computer to train dlss on.

 

[imginy]

Anyone in this thread want me to test anything out on the 3080?

It seems some of them launch benchmarks were often cherry picked games from people under strict NDA.

 

[AutoPilot]

@imginy if you have Flight Sim, it would be nice to hear performance on 4k Ultra.

 

[BriT]

Anyone in this thread want me to test anything out on the 3080?

It seems some of them launch benchmarks were often cherry picked games from people under strict NDA.

Have you done any over clocking?

 

[Sycho]

Anyone in this thread want me to test anything out on the 3080?

It seems some of them launch benchmarks were often cherry picked games from people under strict NDA.

RDR2 in 4k ultra please if possible.

 

[Nablaoperator]

Anyone in this thread want me to test anything out on the 3080?

Interested in the extent of undervolt that can be achieved at stock speeds

 

[Colonel_Klinck]

It turns out the 8nm should be in quotation marks not the Ampere:
14nm and 7nm are NOT what you think it is - Visiting Tescan Part 3/3 - YouTube

Yeah I just watched that. Enjoyable series of videos and shows all this 7nm vs 14nm isn't quite what the marketing seems to make us think it is.

 

[Grim5]

You should ask in the AMD thread. They’re experts on fine wine.

I did

 

[jonneymendoza]

Anyone in this thread want me to test anything out on the 3080?

It seems some of them launch benchmarks were often cherry picked games from people under strict NDA.

Dual universe or Star citizen Please

 

[jonneymendoza]

Just let me buy the 3090 already! I got Among Us to play in 8k!

when does it go on sale?

 

[BriT]

when does it go on sale?

24th

 

[jonneymendoza]

24th

And the benchmarks?