Microsoft buys Zenimax and Bethesda

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All I care about is Elder Scrolls, nothing else, I just want another mainstream Elder Scrolls game. Don't mess with the formula, which means no more online MMO crap, not even co-op, just a moddable, full next-gen Elder Scrolls single-player game with gameplay, graphics, story, size and depth improvements.

100%.

I actually prefer Fallout, but that's not to say Skyrim wasn't an awesome game. We do need a new Skyrim, as you describe.
 
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https://www.pcgamer.com/uk/todd-howard-gives-his-verdict-on-microsofts-bethesda-acquisition/
https://www.pcgamer.com/uk/bethesda-games-starfield-xbox-game-pass/
https://www.pcgamer.com/uk/microsoft-now-owns-the-elder-scrolls-fallout-and-doom/

Starfield is confirmed day 1 game pass on PC!

If you are a PC gamer or want to buy the new Xbox as well its great news as MS will want more Fallout, Elder Scrolls, Doom & some of the other franchises so expect a lot more games from the Bethesda studios. If you are buying a PS5 then I guess its not great news at all!!
 
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I do wonder what the future implication for gaming is. Hopefully it is postive for gamers and not just MS.

Gaming is clearly moving to subscription model, it's unstoppable now. Cloud gaming might even supersede hardware, but I'm not 100% convinced it can succeed.

The days of buying titles from Bethesda for £50 and finding out that they're a buggy mess with no way of getting a refund are now gone. Thankfully.
 
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Gaming is clearly moving to subscription model, it's unstoppable now. Cloud gaming might even supersede hardware, but I'm not 100% convinced it can succeed.

The days of buying titles from Bethesda for £50 and finding out that they're a buggy mess with no way of getting a refund are now gone. Thankfully.
But the days of paying 5 different subscription services to play all triple A games; all of which are broken messes because they've already got your money, seem to be fast approaching.

My post was mainly in reference in how/if Sony is going to respond. And what that would mean for gamers. Will we end up in a tit for tat situation? Unlikely but then, again it was at one point unlikely that MS would buy bethesda.
 
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https://www.pcgamer.com/uk/todd-howard-gives-his-verdict-on-microsofts-bethesda-acquisition/
https://www.pcgamer.com/uk/bethesda-games-starfield-xbox-game-pass/
https://www.pcgamer.com/uk/microsoft-now-owns-the-elder-scrolls-fallout-and-doom/

Starfield is confirmed day 1 game pass on PC!

If you are a PC gamer or want to buy the new Xbox as well its great news as MS will want more Fallout, Elder Scrolls, Doom & some of the other franchises so expect a lot more games from the Bethesda studios. If you are buying a PS5 then I guess its not great news at all!!

Might sway a few of those people who said that Gamepass was too expensive now, into resubscribing. Thats EA games and now Bethesda games on it too.
 
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This will probably work out to be terrible, but on the optimistic side of things I wonder if there'll be some kind of cross collaboration amongst the studios that might lead to fresh ideas and innovation and stuff ... Starfield I imagine would feel pretty different to bethesda stuff I've played before, but I was a bit worried that TES6 (whenever that comes out, my bet is 8 years) might be a bit stale, I expected a lot more from Skyrim really but it didn't feel like they'd advanced things much from Oblivion, other than graphically (though maybe that was due to rose-tinted glasses on my part)...
 
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I expected a lot more from Skyrim really but it didn't feel like they'd advanced things much from Oblivion, other than graphically (though maybe that was due to rose-tinted glasses on my part)...
The Oblivion ↔ Skyrim comparisons are often looked at through rose-tinted glasses. If you go back and play Oblivion, it's still a quality game, but it suffers from so many limitations and it's clear Bethesda were learning to adapt to the console world.

Oblivion DID do some things better than Skyrim, mainly guilds. They were more memorable, also NPCs in general, despite looking like potatoes, they had more of an impact as individuals. Like, I actually remember most of them. I think one of the reasons Skyrim struggled here was because they included the Fallout conversation system where you can move around and look away when interacting with NPCs. Whereas Oblivion's conversation system was built to be a feature itself and zoomed into the NPCs face and made you engage.

Aside from those things Skyrim was better at everything else, from quest depth and quantity, gameplay mechanics (despite the RPG elements being streamlined), dungeon designs, monster levelling, general world and NPC aesthetics, the map and geography, the lore and how it was presented to the player, and just the sheer amount of writing in the game world was a fantastic and much needed improvement. Even the DLCs really added to the gameplay and world immersion.

I could write a 50k word essay on what I'd like to see in Elder Scrolls 6. It has so much potential and I hate that Bethesda pushed Elder Scrolls to the side for 10 years and threw the MMO at us as a money-sink for fans.
 
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Imagine how fantastic this will be if MS makes Bethesda use a new engine for their games, one that isn't appalling ***** and bugged.

I kind of find the buggyness almost endearing, just like arma the intermittent moments of comedy provided by a really stupid physics bug are kinda fun.....

I do agree that we need another proper elderscrolls game.
 
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