New BMW M4 & M3 reveal

Maccy · 23 Sep 2020 at 10:05

I think the grill is hideous too, but it works a lot better on the M3/M4 than the standard 4 series which we saw a few months ago.

Raymond Lin · 23 Sep 2020 at 10:07

They took an Audi grill then added the split down the centre.

turbot1984 · 23 Sep 2020 at 10:11

I called it a day after final E90 'non-turbo' M3 I would get a Giulia instead now.

HangTime · 23 Sep 2020 at 10:17

RevBillyG said:
Designed for the Chinese market. Apparently, the bigger the grill, the more successful you are.

Looks like a bum imprint to me :/

CAN'T BE UNSEEN!

Conscript · 23 Sep 2020 at 10:18

Annoyingly, it would look fantastic if they just got rid of the big grille, in my opinion.
I don't have the photoshop skills to do a mockup, but imagine the solid bumper extends right across (where the numberplate is), with the entire bottom portion remaining open as a lower grille, then just have the two classic BMW kidney grills above between the headlights, and I think it would look fine.

muon · 23 Sep 2020 at 10:19

tom_nieto said:
I think with the M4 they’ve actually got a decent, muscular, aggressive look to the front. The bonnet bulges and grille work with the flared arches. Not sure how that’s going to carry over to your white 420d mind. Performance sounds incredible and the rest of the car (aside from the front grille) looks stunning.

Normal 4 series looks nothing like this. They are clearly differentiating the M cars now.

naefeart · 23 Sep 2020 at 10:41

The smaller front wheels ruin the look for me. Not great because I’m already conflicted with the looks overall.

Never mind. I’ll take the M5, kthanx.

Hilly · 23 Sep 2020 at 10:55

I actually love it, and haven't loved a BMW car, in a long time.

Simon · 23 Sep 2020 at 10:55

all the wheel options are black?!

[TW]Fox · 23 Sep 2020 at 10:59

Simon said:
all the wheel options are black?!

Just like the new 5 Series M Sport

chroniclard · 23 Sep 2020 at 11:03

If vomit were a car.

dacads · 23 Sep 2020 at 11:11

Jonnycoupe said:
The seats in the M4

Was someone sick?

I quite like the exterior actually

Armageus · 23 Sep 2020 at 11:19

Jonnycoupe said:
The seats in the M4

The seats in both are hideous.

And the grill....

Smokey26 · 23 Sep 2020 at 12:10

Vile. Will probably sell lots and lots then. Cough X6 X5, etc, etc.

Cleisthenes · 23 Sep 2020 at 12:21

Smokey26 said:
Vile. Will probably sell lots and lots then. Cough X6 X5, etc, etc.

I think the X5 looks great actually, the size of the car is relatively in propertion to the grill so I think it works. The X7 is a bit much but no where near as gopping as the 7 series

Nasher · 23 Sep 2020 at 12:58

Simon said:
all the wheel options are black?!

Popular colour with the target audience. Which like to say things like "innit bruv" a lot.

BMWs come barried from the factory.

Chris1712 · 23 Sep 2020 at 13:11

Why does it not at least have an offset plate, Alfa Romeo style? Put all that effort into a massive grille then cover it up anyway!?

Also, neither are hybrid? BMW have lost the plot, they're not even trying anymore. Hard to believe the i3 & i8 came out in 2013/14 and since then they've just completely given up.

nam · 23 Sep 2020 at 13:39

another review, better colours. I think Matt is a BMW fan boy

Chris1712 · 23 Sep 2020 at 13:43

The blacked out lower line, skirts etc make the whole car look really high up. It doesn’t have any stance or presence, even kept the horrid black plastic arch extensions.

[TW]Fox · 23 Sep 2020 at 13:46

Chris1712 said:
Also, neither are hybrid?

Why would they be? It's not what the typical M3 buyer wants.

There is a range of plugin hybrid BMW models with up to 400bhp if that's what you want.