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AMD Zen 3 (5000 Series), rumored 17% IPC gain.
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That's an indication of AMD crushing Intel at 15W, and from the review: "At 15W, the generational boost, while it is there, isn’t that significant." and "In the 15W results, the Tiger Lake chip posts rather small improvements over its Ice Lake counterpart..."
I would really love to see intel come right back at AMD with a beastly 32 core 5ghz cpu for sub £500
there’s only one winner if they start going toe to toe with each other for performance crowns
us the consumers
last time intel was on the ropes we got the core series and I’ve just moved my 2600k off daily duties last week in favour of a ryzen 3600x
although that’s just a keeping the x570 mono warm for now until something a bit more beastly comes out
there’s only one winner if they start going toe to toe with each other for performance crowns
us the consumers
last time intel was on the ropes we got the core series and I’ve just moved my 2600k off daily duties last week in favour of a ryzen 3600x
although that’s just a keeping the x570 mono warm for now until something a bit more beastly comes out
Ring bus is good up to 10-core, so Rocket Lake with its 8 cores will or should still be with ring bus topology
Intel are basically on a slump until H2 2021/H1 2022 by which time they will have outsourced their CPU production for their new designs and come back swinging. In the meantime, Tiger Lake will claw back some notebook share, especially as integrated GPU performance as well as program acceleration is very impressive. It's a shame they don't have 8-core designs ready at launch though.
It's all swings and roundabouts and AMD really have benefitted from this Intel rut, so I hope they can maintain their momentum as Intel recover their wits and start to ramp up the pressure again.
"As an engineer, genuine clock-for-clock performance gains get me excited. Unfortunately Tiger Lake doesn't deliver much on this front, and in some cases, we see regressions due to the rearranged cache depending on the workload used. This metric ignores power - but power is the metric on which Tiger Lake wins. Intel hasn't really been wanting to talk about the raw clock-for-clock performance, and perhaps understandably so (from a pure end-user product point of view at any rate)."
https://www.anandtech.com/show/16084/intel-tiger-lake-review-deep-dive-core-11th-gen/19
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It is competitive in performance with Zen2 (besides the core count), more so in the instances with the new accelerated program performance, and it has notably better integrated graphics performance. That is all Intel need at the moment to get some breathing space and they still of course have the premium ultrabook market tied up for this year with Thunderbolt 4. 8 core Tiger Lake will come early next year I believe.
Note 2700X to 3700X improved 31% in that chart. And they weren't trying to improve gaming specifically with Zen 2.With high probability it won't - the delta is 25%.
Top bin against the Ryzen 7 2700X is 68%.
Ryzen is broken in gaming. This architecture simply is wrong for this.
Hi, never had any issues with them in the 20 years going through builds thats probably one of the reasons, another thing do they all come with chipset fans ? feels like its step backwards I know they can be speed controlled and stated 60,000 working hours
found it being sold for £200
looked at reviews its one of the best VRM temps right up with boards costing much more will probably go with it depending how good zen 3 is
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Getting kind of worried that we haven't had such basic info as final base and boost clocks leaked for any SKU with only 2 weeks left to proper announcement (I would expect Lisa's slideshow to have this info anyway). This is making me doubt an October launch. Surely somewhere at the box assembly line some Taiwanese worker has checked the labels by now and can't help but type out the specs.
Since we haven't had any BS leaks to talk about and crap on for awhile, I'll keep it moving. Chinese site "Umiko's Hardware" says X670 will ship with Zen 3: https://twitter.com/unikoshardware/status/1307021576521605121
I love archiving this crap cause when it turns out false you can bad mouth them so easily and see what mental gymnastics they come up with to somehow make it look like they were right.
Another patent was found: https://www.reddit.com/r/realAMD/comments/ivgnpz/new_amd_patent_adaptive_cache_reconfiguration_via/
Since we haven't had any BS leaks to talk about and crap on for awhile, I'll keep it moving. Chinese site "Umiko's Hardware" says X670 will ship with Zen 3: https://twitter.com/unikoshardware/status/1307021576521605121
I love archiving this crap cause when it turns out false you can bad mouth them so easily and see what mental gymnastics they come up with to somehow make it look like they were right.
Another patent was found: https://www.reddit.com/r/realAMD/comments/ivgnpz/new_amd_patent_adaptive_cache_reconfiguration_via/
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You're right about intel. Nope not aware of any websites.
Soldato
With high probability it won't - the delta is 25%.
Top bin against the Ryzen 7 2700X is 68%.
Ryzen is broken in gaming. This architecture simply is wrong for this.
Oh tosh, at least talk objectively instead of making random statements up.
The uplift between the 2700x and the 3700x is 31.4% there. The difference from the 3700x to the 10900k is 28.2%.
If you took the same 31.4% for the 4700x or whatever it will be called that would give you 60fps whihc would be exactly where the 10900k is. This is without really having any perfomance gains directed at gaming. I would honestly expect a higher uplift this time around for AMD tbh in these specific scenarios.
Soldato
Anyone got a 4650G yet, I'm waiting for stock everywhere..
Side by side with the 3400G is what I'm interested in as its going into a server the GPU side is of no use to me, a single GPU core would do, just have to weigh the cost of the 4650 and its 2 extra cores with the 3400g see if its worth it..
Side by side with the 3400G is what I'm interested in as its going into a server the GPU side is of no use to me, a single GPU core would do, just have to weigh the cost of the 4650 and its 2 extra cores with the 3400g see if its worth it..
Caporegime
@4K8KW10 What do you make of this?
The same Zen 2 core at the same 4.4Ghz with the only difference being the 3100 is split 2x2 CCX while the 3300X is a single CCX. , so the same cores having a unified L3 instead of split gains 15% performance in games and puts it just a couple of % behind the same 4 core 8 threads layout 7700K at 5.1Ghz, so a 13% higher IPC.
Zen 3 will all have a unified L3 Cache.
The same Zen 2 core at the same 4.4Ghz with the only difference being the 3100 is split 2x2 CCX while the 3300X is a single CCX. , so the same cores having a unified L3 instead of split gains 15% performance in games and puts it just a couple of % behind the same 4 core 8 threads layout 7700K at 5.1Ghz, so a 13% higher IPC.
Zen 3 will all have a unified L3 Cache.
Soldato
Why would you sabotage your own sanity like this?
Caporegime
i never get why people say its faster per cycle and whatever arguement. a cpu maybe better at the same clock but if the other one can run at a higher speed it means nothing !
that benchmark just shows that despite advancements amd have up until the next cpus failed to take on even old gen cpus. 7700k handing the ass to top of the range current cpus. roll on october so finally amd can do something properly and not have to have to rely on amd shills to try and lie for them.
just let the products do the talking.
that benchmark just shows that despite advancements amd have up until the next cpus failed to take on even old gen cpus. 7700k handing the ass to top of the range current cpus. roll on october so finally amd can do something properly and not have to have to rely on amd shills to try and lie for them.
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