NVIDIA ‘Ampere’ 8nm Graphics Cards

[Greebo]

Show me footage of RDR2 maxed out at 4K in the Annesburg part of the map never dipping under 60 FPS and I’ll believe you.

Other examples where a single 3090 is not going to cut it.

SOTTR
Metro Exodus
Tarkov
GTA V

I dont know about that part of the map or whether any review has done that bit but I know 3090fe average 75-77 fps on 4k ultra and an overclocked strix 3090 at 480W is 18% faster than a 3090FE so that should pull 90 fps ish.

But i think you will struggle avoiding any dip below 60fps as for some off reason RDR2 seems to have a big problem with its minimum framerates and dips.

The faster the card you use, the lower the minimum becomes.

the 2080 super has a minimum of 34.38 fps but only an average of 44.65 and as you use faster and faster cards this minium drops until eventually using a 3090 you get 31.8 but your average is 75.84 fps

Buggy game?

https://hothardware.com/reviews/nvidia-geforce-rtx-3090-bfgpu-review?page=4

 

[TT158]

but I know 3090fe average 75-77 fps on 4k ultra and an overclocked strix 3090 at 480W is 18% faster than a 3090FE so that should pull 90 fps ish.

How do you know this? Link to a source? Nothing I've seen shows that to be remotely possible. Happy to be proven wrong.

 

[kazuya1337]

I dont know about that part of the map or whether any review has done that bit but I know 3090fe average 75-77 fps on 4k ultra and an overclocked strix 3090 at 480W is 18% faster than a 3090FE so that should pull 90 fps ish.

But i think you will struggle avoiding any dip below 60fps as for some off reason RDR2 seems to have a big problem with its minimum framerates and dips.

The faster the card you use, the lower the minimum becomes.

the 2080 super has a minimum of 34.38 fps but only an average of 44.65 and as you use faster and faster cards this minium drops until eventually using a 3090 you get 31.8 but your average is 75.84 fps

Buggy game?

https://hothardware.com/reviews/nvidia-geforce-rtx-3090-bfgpu-review?page=4

RDR2 is a very poorly optimised game for PC, Rockstar did a very poor job.

 

[Richdog]

How do you know this? Link to a source? Nothing I've seen shows that to be remotely possible. Happy to be proven wrong.

Take all of Greebos posts with a pinch of salt as they very often are either very inaccurate or just simply make no sense.

 

[RUN4Y0URL1F3]

I dont know about that part of the map or whether any review has done that bit but I know 3090fe average 75-77 fps on 4k ultra and an overclocked strix 3090 at 480W is 18% faster than a 3090FE so that should pull 90 fps ish.

But i think you will struggle avoiding any dip below 60fps as for some off reason RDR2 seems to have a big problem with its minimum framerates and dips.

The faster the card you use, the lower the minimum becomes.

the 2080 super has a minimum of 34.38 fps but only an average of 44.65 and as you use faster and faster cards this minium drops until eventually using a 3090 you get 31.8 but your average is 75.84 fps

Buggy game?

https://hothardware.com/reviews/nvidia-geforce-rtx-3090-bfgpu-review?page=4

I think this is due to unoptimised drivers, or a single unoptimised setting (i.e.: Reflections Quality).

I rarely dip below 60 FPS with 2 2080 Tis with 2 settings on high rather than ultra.

I’m confident that, in time, 2 3090s will be able to keep a minimum of 60 FPS.

Where did you see that the Strix is 18% faster than the FE?

 

[Greebo]

Take all of Greebos posts with a pinch of salt as they very often are either very inaccurate or just simply make no sense.

Thanks for the personal attack! Guess you need to go on ignore

 

[Greebo]

How do you know this? Link to a source? Nothing I've seen shows that to be remotely possible. Happy to be proven wrong.

Cant find the link atm the moment comparing the strix 3090 oc at 480W to a 3090 FE but just take a look at the techpowerup

Zotac 3090

https://www.techpowerup.com/review/zotac-geforce-rtx-3090-trinity/22.html

71.5 fps in rdr2

Asus Stix oc at 480W

https://www.techpowerup.com/review/asus-geforce-rtx-3090-strix-oc/22.html

80.2 fps

Thats a 12% perfromance increase over an ordinary 3090

A lot of the games like Jedi and Control at over 14% faster on the OC strix 3090 vs the zotac 3090.

They might have had an unlucky chip in their strix 3090 as they were only getting to 1960 boost when running at 480W whereas the review I saw they had their strix card running at 2000Mhz boost with 380W.

 

[Richdog]

Thanks for the personal attack! Guess you need to go on ignore

Yeah well but it's true, a great deal of what you write is neither accurate nor factual, I have just never pointed it out before.

And no worries about the ignore list, I do that regularly and I heartily recommend everyone does it too for the best forum reading experience possible.

 

[RUN4Y0URL1F3]

Cant find the link atm the moment comparing the strix 3090 oc at 480W to a 3090 FE but just take a look at the techpowerup

Zotac 3090

https://www.techpowerup.com/review/zotac-geforce-rtx-3090-trinity/22.html

71.5 fps in rdr2

Asus Stix oc at 480W

https://www.techpowerup.com/review/asus-geforce-rtx-3090-strix-oc/22.html

80.2 fps

Thats a 12% perfromance increase over an ordinary 3090

A lot of the games like Jedi and Control at over 14% faster on the OC strix 3090 vs the zotac 3090.

It would be interesting to see the minimum FPS...

 

[waspy88]

I am conflicted, dunno whether to place a pre-order on a Strix 3090. The other place had a delivery date of 5th October.. but I was too chicken to click.
I wonder how many orders OCUK got for Strix 3090

 

[Greebo]

Yeah well but it's true, a great deal of what you wrote is neither accurate nor factual, I have just never pointed it out before.

And no worries about the ignore list, I do that regularly and I heartily recommend everyone does it too for the best forum reading experience possible.

Not added you yet Just seemed a bit of a instant dismissal. I can only go on the reviews other people have linked on here.

It does seem that the strix 3090 gives you as much of gain over a normal 3090 as a normal 3090 gives you over a 3080.

So if you are going spring out all that money for a 3090 then you best spend the extra on a card which can at least give the 3090 more than 375W.

I have said this since day one that the FE and any 2 pin 3090s wont gain much over an overclocked 3080 as both cards will be hitting the 375W ceiling anf I have been proved right.

Just like a stopped clock, i am right twice a day

 

[waspy88]

I pulled the trigger on the Strix OC 3090.. probably will be late Oct before it arrives.
Will cancel if it doesn't arrive before 19th November - CP2077 day though

 

[Greebo]

Cant find the link atm the moment comparing the strix 3090 oc at 480W to a 3090 FE but just take a look at the techpowerup

Zotac 3090

https://www.techpowerup.com/review/zotac-geforce-rtx-3090-trinity/22.html

71.5 fps in rdr2

Asus Stix oc at 480W

https://www.techpowerup.com/review/asus-geforce-rtx-3090-strix-oc/22.html

80.2 fps

Thats a 12% perfromance increase over an ordinary 3090

A lot of the games like Jedi and Control at over 14% faster on the OC strix 3090 vs the zotac 3090.

They might have had an unlucky chip in their strix 3090 as they were only getting to 1960 boost when running at 480W whereas the review I saw they had their strix card running at 2000Mhz boost with 380W.

EDIT just spotted in the TEchpower review their card was hitting 78C when they were using the 480W overclocked bios and the boost dropped from 2040 to the 1960. The review i saw which claimed the 480W strix was 18% faster than a 3090FE was keeping it under 70C

They lost 4% of their boost in the techpower up review.

 

[Poneros]

RDR2 is a very poorly optimised game for PC, Rockstar did a very poor job.

Completely disagree. RDR 2 runs like a dream and scales up & down very well both visually and performance-wise. Problem is some people are enabling brute force options that destroy the CPU and then don't understand why the minimums are low - in this case stuff like running water physics past the 1/2-way point. No different than when people complained about games' performance but they were running 8x MSAA. At least with MSAA they're starting to learn.

 

[Grim5]

Igor believes he has found why some 3080/3090 cards crash and some don't.

It basically comes down to some manufacturers cheap out on components. FE cards and ASUS cards aren't affected as they used high quality components, while Zotac and MSI cards are affected by cheap components that fail to handle voltage filtering adequately.

And yea this issue can easily be detected by the manufacturer doing adequate testing at the factory, they clearly did not lol

ahttps://www.igorslab.de/en/what-rea...tabilities-of-the-force-rtx-3080-andrtx-3090/

 

[TNA]

Completely disagree. RDR 2 runs like a dream and scales up & down very well both visually and performance-wise. Problem is some people are enabling brute force options that destroy the CPU and then don't understand why the minimums are low - in this case stuff like running water physics past the 1/2-way point. No different than when people complained about games' performance but they were running 8x MSAA. At least with MSAA they're starting to learn.

Funny this coming from you, makes sense, yet you bang on about 10gb not being enough when the bloody same thing applies for the most part. Lol.

 

[TaKeN]

Igor believes he has found why some 3080/3090 cards crash and some don't.

It basically comes down to some manufacturers cheap out on components. FE cards and ASUS cards aren't affected as they used high quality components, while Zotac and MSI cards are affected by cheap components that fail to handle voltage filtering adequately.

And yea this issue can easily be detected by the manufacturer doing adequate testing at the factory, they clearly did not lol

ahttps://www.igorslab.de/en/what-rea...tabilities-of-the-force-rtx-3080-andrtx-3090/

Yikes.

 

[Greebo]

Igor believes he has found why some 3080/3090 cards crash and some don't.

It basically comes down to some manufacturers cheap out on components. FE cards and ASUS cards aren't affected as they used high quality components, while Zotac and MSI cards are affected by cheap components that fail to handle voltage filtering adequately.

And yea this issue can easily be detected by the manufacturer doing adequate testing at the factory, they clearly did not lol

ahttps://www.igorslab.de/en/what-rea...tabilities-of-the-force-rtx-3080-andrtx-3090/

Ouch. I know Zotac cut corners and left lots of bits off their cards but if they have skimped out so much that their cards dont boost past 2000 then they went too far.

No wonder they locked off the power slider.

 

[Poneros]

The interesting part is the Asus Strix has different configs depending on who got the card. The question is - will the customers be screwed or will they get the good spec?

'm totally confused right now, on techpowerup the 3090 STRIX OC has 6 MLCCs and on benchlife.info the 3090 STRIX OC has 2 MLCCs and 4 POSCAPs.

Can someone explain this?

https://www.igorslab.de/community/t...0-stecken-könnte-investigativ.3217/post-74946

 

[shankly1985]

RDR2 is a very poorly optimised game for PC, Rockstar did a very poor job.

Disagree
RDR2 pushes the graphics card hard because the level of detail and lighting is above anything else out right now.

It's a title pushing pc hardware, these are the games we need to push in industry forward.