8 PACK MEMORY RANGE GROWING: SAY HELLO TO 8 PACK RIPPED EDITION & 32GB KITS!!!

Deluxe1 · 14 Sep 2020 at 16:31

GregI said:
The only info on overclocks I found were here: https://www.overclockers.com/forums...on-2x16GB-DDR4-3600-CL16-TDPPD416G3600HC16GBK

Thanks.

Slinky69 · 14 Sep 2020 at 20:50

Thanks, that's the set of RAM I am planning on getting, so that could be v useful info

Nutty_Death · 15 Sep 2020 at 08:03

Upped the voltage to 1.45 (not stable at 1.4) on my Corsair bdie after seeing that's what the 8pack kit uses, c15 now seems stable but c14 windows crashes. This could be due to my sub timings though. Could someone with the c14 bdie take a screenshot of the main tab in the calculator with their sub timings please.

Robert896r1 · 28 Sep 2020 at 23:44

New daily and probably the most i can squeeze out of z390 before having to loosen up RTL's which hurts latency.

Z390 will likely be the lowest latency DDR4 platform sadly

Dave2150 · 4 Oct 2020 at 10:45

Hey all,

I need an upgrade to 32GB. Currently on 6700k/z170 motherboard, which has 4 slots. Using a bog standard 3000Mhz C15 16GB kit currently (Corsair Vengeange). Will be moving to Zen 3/Rocketlake when they launch.

I'm trying to decide between ordering 2X16GB 3200Mhz C14 Ripped kits (so 4 sticks of 8GB), vs the 32GB 3600Mhz C16 kit (2 sticks of 16GB).

Is it more difficult to get a CPU with a strong enough IMC that can run all 4 sticks at 3200Mhz C14, vs 2 sticks at 3600Mhz c16?

Also, does anyone have any pictures of how these look installed in a motherboard please?

Thanks!

Robert896r1 · 4 Oct 2020 at 12:14

@Dave2150 2x16 support on Z170 is probably going to be your biggest challenge. I'd do some research on how much success people have doing 2x16 on your board first.

Dave2150 · 4 Oct 2020 at 12:35

Robert896r1 said:
@Dave2150 2x16 support on Z170 is probably going to be your biggest challenge. I'd do some research on how much success people have doing 2x16 on your board first.

It's mostly for when I upgrade to Zen3/Rocket Lake. 2x16 were supported back in 2015 when I bought my board, several 2x16 kits on the QVL list, so not worried about that.

If I do have issues though, I'll just keep my current kit and hold off on selling it on the MM, least I'll have the memory ready for when I get my new CPU/motherboard, at a good pre brexit price!

Dave2150 · 4 Oct 2020 at 13:28

Ordered "Crucial Ballistix RGB BL2K16G36C16U4BL 3600 MHz". 3600Mhz, C16, much cheaper than the Teamgroup.

Will report back if any issues on Z170

benjii · 4 Oct 2020 at 15:16

Robert896r1 said:
@Dave2150 2x16 support on Z170 is probably going to be your biggest challenge. I'd do some research on how much success people have doing 2x16 on your board first.

Yeah. I bought the 3600Mhz 2x16 and some other kits while it was on sale, in preparation for Zen 3 on my rig and for a new R5 3600 B450 build. I have to run the 2x16 at 3333Mhz C15 on my 6700k Z170, any higher and it won't post or at least not reliably.

Dave2150 · 4 Oct 2020 at 16:23

benjii said:
Yeah. I bought the 3600Mhz 2x16 and some other kits while it was on sale, in preparation for Zen 3 on my rig and for a new R5 3600 B450 build. I have to run the 2x16 at 3333Mhz C15 on my 6700k Z170, any higher and it won't post or at least not reliably.

Ah thanks for the info. Totally fine with running it at reduced/speed timings, as it hopefully won't be long before I upgrade to Rocketlake/Zen3 (whichever is faster single core).

I've got a Maximus Hero VIII, which supposedly supports upto 3733Mhz (OC) - though of course the Crucial Ballistix is not on the QVL list as it's not been updated for eons.

I'll report back as to what it'll run at anyhow

benjii · 4 Oct 2020 at 16:50

Dave2150 said:
Ah thanks for the info. Totally fine with running it at reduced/speed timings, as it hopefully won't be long before I upgrade to Rocketlake/Zen3 (whichever is faster single core).

I've got a Maximus Hero VIII, which supposedly supports upto 3733Mhz (OC) - though of course the Crucial Ballistix is not on the QVL list as it's not been updated for eons.

I'll report back as to what it'll run at anyhow

I have the Maximus Hero VIII Alpha, so I guess the experience may be similar. It's worth mentioning that I could run it at 3400Mhz, but then after a week or so I got my first post fail. Timings didn't seem to make much difference to my success, it was all about the speed.

Dave2150 · 4 Oct 2020 at 17:09

benjii said:
I have the Maximus Hero VIII Alpha, so I guess the experience may be similar. It's worth mentioning that I could run it at 3400Mhz, but then after a week or so I got my first post fail. Timings didn't seem to make much difference to my success, it was all about the speed.

Ah yeah. The boards should be good up to 3733, so guess it's just down the luck of the draw with the 6700k's IMC.

GregI · 6 Oct 2020 at 13:47

If anyone has the ripped kit and wants to do some experimentation, I found an interesting indepth review of what should be the same IC: https://www.computerbase.de/2020-08...r4-3600c14-test-amd-ryzen-r3-3300x-steroiden/

Apparently you can set XMP default values and run the RAM at 1.37v. This is probably on the edge of stability but anyone else try inputting 1.38v and see if it's stable?

Dave2150 · 8 Oct 2020 at 19:40

benjii said:
I have the Maximus Hero VIII Alpha, so I guess the experience may be similar. It's worth mentioning that I could run it at 3400Mhz, but then after a week or so I got my first post fail. Timings didn't seem to make much difference to my success, it was all about the speed.

Just installed my memory (Crucial Ballistix BL2K16G36C16U4B). Did a few test boots at the XMP profile of 3600Mhz, c16, all seems good. Maybe luck of the draw with CPU IMC, or maybe the Maximus Hero VIII has better memory support?

Is this the fabled Micron 'E'? I know the Samsung B die was supposed to be good. Is this the preferred DRAM module type for Ryzen? I'm only using it on my 6700k\z170 until I get my Ryzen 5000 series CPU

Before: 16GB kit (2x8GB 3000Mhz C15):

After: 32GB kit (2x16GB 3600Mhz C16):

Anyone have any experience with this kit, worth bothering to tighten timings etc?

BigBANGtheory · 9 Oct 2020 at 14:39

Are these 8GB modules single or dual rank do we know? Trying to figure out the load on the memory controller if using 4 x 8GB....

alec · 9 Oct 2020 at 14:49

BigBANGtheory said:
Are these 8GB modules single or dual rank do we know? Trying to figure out the load on the memory controller if using 4 x 8GB....

Pretty much all 8GB modules are single rank.
(I do have a Kingston 2x8GB 3000C15 kit, back from 2015 which was dual rank. Very early DDR4 memory)

Jose Elan · 15 Oct 2020 at 13:40

Hi Folks,

I was hoping someone could help offer an opinion with this RAM, specifically the CL16 3600 2x16GB variant. I'm planning on pairing it with a MSI X570 Unify and an AMD 5900x. Just reading on the tinkering that appears to be going on, I can't see if that tinkering is required or whether the XMP profiles will 'just work'. I'm concerned because the mobo isn't on the QVL for the RAM and the Ram isn't on the QVL for the MOBO.

Any opinions would be appreciated.

GregI · 15 Oct 2020 at 14:02

Jose Elan said:
I can't see if that tinkering is required or whether the XMP profiles will 'just work'. I'm concerned because the mobo isn't on the QVL for the RAM and the Ram isn't on the QVL for the MOBO.

Any opinions would be appreciated.

The XMP profile will work but really the only reason to spend this much money is if you are actually going to tinker with it (for example pushing it to 3600C14).

If you are going for XMP then BL2K16G36C16U4B is a good thing to Google for basically identical performance and 65% of the price. Can be found in red/white also.

Joxeon · 15 Oct 2020 at 14:31

Jose Elan said:
Hi Folks,

I was hoping someone could help offer an opinion with this RAM, specifically the CL16 3600 2x16GB variant. I'm planning on pairing it with a MSI X570 Unify and an AMD 5900x. Just reading on the tinkering that appears to be going on, I can't see if that tinkering is required or whether the XMP profiles will 'just work'. I'm concerned because the mobo isn't on the QVL for the RAM and the Ram isn't on the QVL for the MOBO.

Any opinions would be appreciated.

XMP will work just fine.

Jose Elan · 15 Oct 2020 at 19:49

GregI said:
The XMP profile will work but really the only reason to spend this much money is if you are actually going to tinker with it (for example pushing it to 3600C14).

If you are going for XMP then BL2K16G36C16U4B is a good thing to Google for basically identical performance and 65% of the price. Can be found in red/white also.

Joxeon said:
XMP will work just fine.

Cheers Folks.

I do want to tinker but want a solid baseline from where to start so that I know what to expect as a minimum - you may have gathered I don't really know what I'm doing so want decent performance and then can play a bit once I know where I am up to.

Thanks, feel more confidant in the purchase now but I'll look into the Crucial as they have an RGB variant of that Ram for less than the 8Pack.