AMD Navi 23 ‘NVIDIA Killer’ GPU Rumored to Support Hardware Ray Tracing, Coming Next Year

gpuerrilla · 2 Oct 2020 at 08:20

Phixsator said:
You know it will be hidden behind a wall of excuses as usual... Get ready for a boatload of "but AMD drivers suck" and "AMD draws more power....." oh wait they are about to lose that excuse too

It was always a wifes tale though. Always has been.

gpuerrilla · 2 Oct 2020 at 08:34

nvidia push back 3070 launch till 29th October..

JediFragger · 2 Oct 2020 at 08:37

Does it matter? Won't be able to get them ****ers either

Ian Evey · 2 Oct 2020 at 08:42

Its because they have old 20xx series stock to sell.

I am quite bored with nvidia lately.

Dontrocktheboat · 2 Oct 2020 at 08:43

Th0nt said:
nvidia push back 3070 launch till 29th October..

Oh that's going to spoil the AMD party.

I think there will be plenty of these puppies available at launch tbh.

Just hope this does perform = 2080ti as per Nvidia bs marketing slide. Otherwise they can shove it.

Phate · 2 Oct 2020 at 08:46

They're trying to detract hype from AMD is my bet

michty_me · 2 Oct 2020 at 08:48

Phate said:
They're trying to detract hype from AMD is my bet

Sounds like that to me!

gpuerrilla · 2 Oct 2020 at 08:48

Phate said:
They're trying to detract hype from AMD is my bet

Trying the appropriate word.

Still not going to feed the mass sheeple. Another fail?

Rroff · 2 Oct 2020 at 08:53

Phate said:
They're trying to detract hype from AMD is my bet

Wouldn't they want to offload as many GPUs as they could before AMD gets a chance?

gpuerrilla · 2 Oct 2020 at 08:58

Rroff said:
Wouldn't they want to offload as many GPUs as they could before AMD gets a chance?

Cant if there is a supply issue, holdups. It shouldnt affect the 3070 as bad as the 3080s but we will wait and see.

Phate · 2 Oct 2020 at 09:00

Rroff said:
Wouldn't they want to offload as many GPUs as they could before AMD gets a chance?

Yes, but thats not it.

They don't have the stock of the 3080 or the 3090 so far. And the 3070 is likely to be even more popular due to it offering 2080ti performance for sod all price wise. They don't have the supply.

So if I were in Nvidias shoes. Pushing the 3070 release to the day after the 28th (and knowing Nvidias mindshare as well) could plague the news online surrounding the RDNA2 announcements and muddy the waters, this could cause a negative affect to RDNA2. I am going to bet that reviewers get 3070s and the embargos lifted a couple of days before the 28th as well.

Remember, that even if Nvidia are getting bad press, its taking any press time from AMD.

gpuerrilla · 2 Oct 2020 at 09:03

Party Poopers!!

Grim5 · 2 Oct 2020 at 09:06

Two days ago: rumours that Nvidia doesn't believe it needs the RTx3080 to beat big Navi.

Today: Nvidia has moved the 3070 GA104 launch to be the day after big Navi.

that's quite the confident showing from Nvidia. If big Navi beats the 3070, the 3070 launch will be quickly forgotten into mediocrity but if big Navi loses to the 3070 or is poor value it will be a massive blow for AMD.

big ball move by Nvidia big risk let's see what happens

Phate · 2 Oct 2020 at 09:11

Grim5 said:
Two days ago: rumours that Nvidia doesn't believe it needs the RTx3080 to beat big Navi.

Wouldn't be surprised if Nvidia started that rumour in a build up to this launch delay to get people to think along the lines you have posted tbh

hobib_ali · 2 Oct 2020 at 09:13

Grim5 said:
Two days ago: rumours that Nvidia doesn't believe it needs the RTx3080 to beat big Navi.

Today: Nvidia has moved the 3070 GA104 launch to be the day after big Navi.

that's quite the confident showing from Nvidia. If big Navi beats the 3070, the 3070 launch will be quickly forgotten into mediocrity but if big Navi loses to the 3070 or is poor value it will be a massive blow for AMD.

big ball move by Nvidia big risk let's see what happens

why doesnt AMD release a card to compete with nvidias top cards like the 2080ti or 3080/90?

they use to have cards back in the day but now their big cards only compete with nvidias low end cards

Shiari · 2 Oct 2020 at 09:15

hobib_ali said:
why doesnt AMD release a card to compete with nvidias top cards like the 2080ti or 3080/90?

they use to have cards back in the day but now their big cards only compete with nvidias low end cards

If the rumours are correct, Navi 21 should definitely be competitive with the 3080 at least, while also offering most of the VRAM that the 3090 has. Not going to say "it might even trade blows with the 3090" (I'm tempering my expectations) but it should certainly be competitive at the high end yes.

elroberto · 2 Oct 2020 at 09:16

michty_me said:
Well if thats all true, Might just pump a bit of cash and go for the Navi21 3080 competitor or 3070 competitor.

hobib_ali said:
why doesnt AMD release a card to compete with nvidias top cards like the 2080ti or 3080/90?

they use to have cards back in the day but now their big cards only compete with nvidias low end cards

Well the 5700xt was a midrange competitor but all the indicators so far are that they'll compete at the high end. If Nvidia thought they couldn't compete you wouldnt see the 3080 for less than a grand.

Journey · 2 Oct 2020 at 09:16

Grim5 said:
big ball move by Nvidia big risk let's see what happens

Whut? It's a move purely based on saving face due to massive stock issues, I think we've already established that Nvidia brought forward the launch, with a tiny amount of stock, the performance metrics are totally irrelevant. All they've done is pee'd off people waiting for the RTX 3070, and those people are now going to end up waiting even longer effectively as it they miss the stock due to the bot match, they may end up waiting until January or longer. It's a trampy move by Nvidia and it effects consumers directly.

elroberto · 2 Oct 2020 at 09:30

Smffy said:
How can you possibly future proof it when the card won’t run 8k in any playable or acceptable form (as proven by 3090...)? It’s not like having the memory is any use unless you can upgrade the thing it’s attached to. Nvidia crazy talk.

Jensen would be happy if people just bought 2 3090's in SLI for 8k. Might hit 45-50 fps in 1 or 2 games...bargain.

Nablaoperator · 2 Oct 2020 at 09:31

Grim5 said:
Two days ago: rumours that Nvidia doesn't believe it needs the RTx3080 to beat big Navi.

Today: Nvidia has moved the 3070 GA104 launch to be the day after big Navi.

that's quite the confident showing from Nvidia. If big Navi beats the 3070, the 3070 launch will be quickly forgotten into mediocrity but if big Navi loses to the 3070 or is poor value it will be a massive blow for AMD.

big ball move by Nvidia big risk let's see what happens

Hah, no point waiting if you have a superior product, in fact they'd have liked to prepone to coincide with zen3 launch. Can't see any angle other than supply chain issues or a 3070 that is significantly inferior to navi (just ensure AMD has no comparable benchmarks at launch..)

Looks like a win guys, performance should be much better than 3070, but can it match the 3080?