AMD Zen 3 (5000 Series), rumored 17% IPC gain.

uscool · 4 Oct 2020 at 12:47

Journey said:
I'd just use a PCI-E M.2 expansion card if you want more M.2 slots in future.

, I cant seem to find any PCI-E 4.0 M.2 expansion cards

Joxeon · 4 Oct 2020 at 12:48

Combat Fighter said:
Thinking about finally jumping ship with the 5000 series coming out. Looking to get a 5900X with a Gigabytex570 Aorus Ultra motherboard.

One thing that’s on my mind, will the motherboard come with a compatible bios installed for the 5000 series as if not how will you be able to get it going.

Or is it likely there will be a refresh of motherboards for compatibility with the 5000 series (which would make sense) for people jumping over to AMD?

There is no guarentee that B550 and X570 will come zen 3 ready just like there was with zen 2 on 400 series boards. I would go with a motherboard that has a bios flashback feature as this negates the need to apply to AMD for a loan CPU for bios updating.

uscool · 4 Oct 2020 at 12:49

Combat Fighter said:
Thinking about finally jumping ship with the 5000 series coming out. Looking to get a 5900X with a Gigabytex570 Aorus Ultra motherboard.

One thing that’s on my mind, will the motherboard come with a compatible bios installed for the 5000 series as if not how will you be able to get it going.

Or is it likely there will be a refresh of motherboards for compatibility with the 5000 series (which would make sense) for people jumping over to AMD?

Also interested in the same board and searched it has feature called Q-Flash Plus which lets you flash bios without needing CPU

Q-Flash Plus allows you to flash a working BIOs even your computer won't boot. It doesn’t even need a CPU or RAM to be installed!

Step 1: Prepare the USB drive
Download the latest BIOS version for your motherboard from the motherboard product page. Extract the downloaded BIOS file to the root of your flash drive. We need to rename the BIOS file so that Q-Flash Plus can find it. Rename the BIOS file to GIGABYTE.bin.

Step 2: Plug the USB drive into your computer
Now you need to plug the USB drive into the USB port that supports Q-Flash Plus. You will be able to find this in the manual of your motherboard.

Step 3: Flash the BIOS using Q-Flash Plus
Ensure that your power supply is connected to your motherboard and try and boot your computer. After about 20 seconds, Q-Flash Plus will notice that the computer is not booting correctly and will start the BIOS flashing process automatically.

You will see that the BIOS LED will start flashing on your motherboard which indicates that the BIOS flash is currently in progress. After a few minutes, the LED shall stop flashing which means that the BIOS flash has been completed.

Combat Fighter · 4 Oct 2020 at 13:18

uscool said:
Also interested in the same board and searched it has feature called Q-Flash Plus which lets you flash bios without needing CPU

Q-Flash Plus allows you to flash a working BIOs even your computer won't boot. It doesn’t even need a CPU or RAM to be installed!

Step 1: Prepare the USB drive
Download the latest BIOS version for your motherboard from the motherboard product page. Extract the downloaded BIOS file to the root of your flash drive. We need to rename the BIOS file so that Q-Flash Plus can find it. Rename the BIOS file to GIGABYTE.bin.

Step 2: Plug the USB drive into your computer
Now you need to plug the USB drive into the USB port that supports Q-Flash Plus. You will be able to find this in the manual of your motherboard.

Step 3: Flash the BIOS using Q-Flash Plus
Ensure that your power supply is connected to your motherboard and try and boot your computer. After about 20 seconds, Q-Flash Plus will notice that the computer is not booting correctly and will start the BIOS flashing process automatically.

You will see that the BIOS LED will start flashing on your motherboard which indicates that the BIOS flash is currently in progress. After a few minutes, the LED shall stop flashing which means that the BIOS flash has been completed.

Well that’s pretty cool then.

Just need to prepare a usb drive before stripping out my old system.

Slinky69 · 4 Oct 2020 at 13:25

I think pretty much all the X570 boards have that feature - MSI boards have it too.

Alexrose1uk · 4 Oct 2020 at 14:17

BUDFORCE said:
5800x is it? The 8 core fastest clock speed.

Anyway, percentage wise, how much of an improvement is that going to be over my Sandbridge i7-2600k?

My old [email protected] all core (aka about as overclocked as this chip goes) is outpaced in CPU-Z bench in both single and multithreaded by a 3600. Not by much on single core, but it is, and that's ignoring the newer feature sets, and other advancements, and the MUCH higher power draw of the 2700K.

Now given how much better the 5*** series are looking, PLUS more cores, yes you really are looking at a substantial all around upgrade.

Journey · 4 Oct 2020 at 14:46

uscool said:
, I cant seem to find any PCI-E 4.0 M.2 expansion cards

There are quite a few about, just used a few of the Gigabyte Aorus ones in some Threadripoer builds, they take up to 4 drives each and use a 16x slot, but you can get small ones as well.

BongoHunter · 4 Oct 2020 at 14:48

uscool said:
, I cant seem to find any PCI-E 4.0 M.2 expansion cards

I think all of the AMD partners who put out Threadripper 3 boards have at least one of these cards in their range.

Absolutely Clueless · 4 Oct 2020 at 14:55

uscool said:
Also interested in the same board and searched it has feature called Q-Flash Plus which lets you flash bios without needing CPU

Q-Flash Plus allows you to flash a working BIOs even your computer won't boot. It doesn’t even need a CPU or RAM to be installed!

Step 1: Prepare the USB drive
Download the latest BIOS version for your motherboard from the motherboard product page. Extract the downloaded BIOS file to the root of your flash drive. We need to rename the BIOS file so that Q-Flash Plus can find it. Rename the BIOS file to GIGABYTE.bin.

Step 2: Plug the USB drive into your computer
Now you need to plug the USB drive into the USB port that supports Q-Flash Plus. You will be able to find this in the manual of your motherboard.

Step 3: Flash the BIOS using Q-Flash Plus
Ensure that your power supply is connected to your motherboard and try and boot your computer. After about 20 seconds, Q-Flash Plus will notice that the computer is not booting correctly and will start the BIOS flashing process automatically.

You will see that the BIOS LED will start flashing on your motherboard which indicates that the BIOS flash is currently in progress. After a few minutes, the LED shall stop flashing which means that the BIOS flash has been completed.

Super glad about this, as I am building my first PC with Zen 3. Let's hope it goes swimmingly... Im sure I will find a way to **** it up.

humbug · 4 Oct 2020 at 14:59

4K8KW10 said:
But why the 5000 series will include Zen 2 refresh?!

Interestingly, the Ryzen 5000U series would allegedly feature both Cezanne (Zen3) and Lucienne (Ze2) processors in the lineup.
https://videocardz.com/newz/amd-cezanne-and-lucienne-to-both-power-ryzen-5000u-series

"Lucienne exclusively for Google" Chrome Book's. it would make sense, Zen 2 at this point will be very cheap to make and would be perfect for Chrome Book's.

ChrisD. · 4 Oct 2020 at 16:07

I’ve just ordered a 10800k but I think I should cancel and wait for the 8th?

Deluxe1 · 4 Oct 2020 at 16:15

ChrisD. said:
I’ve just ordered a 10800k but I think I should cancel and wait for the 8th?

I would, it's only a few days away.

humbug · 4 Oct 2020 at 16:22

Deluxe1 said:
I would, it's only a few days away.

+1

Destination · 4 Oct 2020 at 16:26

ChrisD. said:
I’ve just ordered a 10800k but I think I should cancel and wait for the 8th?

Indeed

Absolutely Clueless · 4 Oct 2020 at 17:04

ChrisD. said:
I’ve just ordered a 10800k but I think I should cancel and wait for the 8th?

Sounds like you've nabbed a one-off i7 CPU there. Definitely keep the order!

Absolutely Clueless · 4 Oct 2020 at 17:08

Guest2 said:
Is this ‘5925.2X’ available to buy then? 6.9Ghz sounds rather nice over my current [email protected]... also sounds expensive!

It is expensive, but you get what you pay for, right?

ChrisD. · 4 Oct 2020 at 17:15

Absolutely Clueless said:
Sounds like you've nabbed a one-off i7 CPU there. Definitely keep the order!

Haha. 10900k even. I’m going to cancel the order.

spoffle · 4 Oct 2020 at 17:17

ChrisD. said:
Haha. 10900k even. I’m going to cancel the order.

Good choice. You can always re-order if you're not happy with what AMD announces on the 8th.

ChrisD. · 4 Oct 2020 at 17:19

spoffle said:
Good choice. You can always re-order if you're not happy with what AMD announces on the 8th.

And I’m thinking Intel might lower the price. It’s not a bad CPU.

Kirby Wurm · 4 Oct 2020 at 17:21

I hope BIOS flashback isn't as fiddly as it was with some B450 boards, at least for MSI. Lots of users had issues, they seemed very sensitive to the type of memory stick used. I just couldn't get it to work with a Pro Carbon when building a system for my wife's friend's son so had to send it back, got a Tomahawk instead which worked perfectly.