"Speed Limit for Air Quality"

Fusion · 2 Oct 2020 at 08:01

I'm all for reducing emissions, but dropping traffic speeds from 70 to 60mph for a stretch of road isn't going to make that much difference in a big urban area.

As always though, it's easier to force through these kind of annoyances than make real investment in infrastructure that would bring about a genuine difference.

Dis86 · 2 Oct 2020 at 08:42

Fusion said:
I'm all for reducing emissions, but dropping traffic speeds from 70 to 60mph for a stretch of road isn't going to make that much difference in a big urban area.

As always though, it's easier to force through these kind of annoyances than make real investment in infrastructure that would bring about a genuine difference.

It can and does make a genuine difference. You're talking up to a 20% reduction if everyone sticks to the limit.

Mercenary Keyboard Warrior · 2 Oct 2020 at 08:57

Jonnycoupe said:
Indeed, I'm really stuck on the fence between a Nissan Leaf and that Aventador choice I'm facing.

Manual in the aventador?
Then no other thought process to make, its the best but if its an auto then there isn't any diff so I would just go with cheapest

NVP · 2 Oct 2020 at 09:35

The autos have a diff. Loser

Hades · 2 Oct 2020 at 09:44

NVP said:

Well done sir.

Simon · 2 Oct 2020 at 10:13

Dis86 said:
Guys, guys, got a new joke for you...

How do you know if someone ~~is a vegan~~ drives an EV?

Mercenary Keyboard Warrior · 2 Oct 2020 at 11:35

NVP said:
The autos have a diff. Loser

Damnit that was a bad choice of word to abbreviate
well played sir

NVP · 2 Oct 2020 at 12:40

Scania said:
Cargo vehicles (trucks) are already restricted to 89Km/h - 55mph - as for Vans, they can legally do 70 on a motorway just as a car can, and do it easily, many exceed this by a fair margin more than some car drivers too.

No they're not, as they're commonly doing more than that on motorways. Legally LGVs can do 60 on the motorway and some even 70 (if less than 7.5t, non-articulated / not towing).

Sit them all in lane 1 at 55 with the occasional crawler lane on a larger scale to how the A5 used to work before it was flooded with traffic.

Ah yes, I forgot vans would be included. They're exempt of course, I love me a nice, empty van in the snow

Grimley · 4 Oct 2020 at 15:57

NVP said:
Should they just drop ALL cargo vehicle speeds to 55? We'd get a lane back at least!

Ignore

[TW]Fox · 4 Oct 2020 at 16:03

NVP said:
No they're not, as they're commonly doing more than that on motorways.

Yes they are - all trucks in excess of 3.5tonne are legally required to be fitted with governors limiting maximum speed to 56mph.

D3K · 4 Oct 2020 at 16:10

Couldn't care less what the limit is, as long as it's not an average speed zone.

robj20 · 4 Oct 2020 at 16:28

D3K said:
Couldn't care less what the limit is, as long as it's not an average speed zone.

I prefer them, stops people racing between cameras.

MagicBoy · 4 Oct 2020 at 16:43

WJA96 said:
You should try being an EV driver. I’m being forced to slow down for an air quality problem I’m not contributing to. Now that’s annoying.

You're expending more electrons, and a good chunk of those are generated from fossil fuels.

robj20 · 4 Oct 2020 at 16:59

WJA96 said:
You should try being an EV driver. I’m being forced to slow down for an air quality problem I’m not contributing to. Now that’s annoying.

Does your car have rubber tyres? If so it's still causing plenty of pollution. You then also have brake dust polution.
Don't fall for the EV equals completely green.

NVP · 4 Oct 2020 at 17:57

[TW]Fox said:
Yes they are - all trucks in excess of 3.5tonne are legally required to be fitted with governors limiting maximum speed to 56mph.

Dis86 · 4 Oct 2020 at 18:01

NVP said:

Suggest you read all of the page.

https://www.gov.uk/speed-limits

NVP · 4 Oct 2020 at 18:13

Dis86 said:
Suggest you read all of the page.

https://www.gov.uk/speed-limits

What am I missing :confused:

[TW]Fox · 4 Oct 2020 at 18:22

NVP said:
What am I missing

'Speed limiters must be fitted... ... goods vehicles with a maximum laden weight of more than 3.5 tonnes'

It doesn't matter what the speed limit is - all goods vehicles over 3.5t are legally obligated to be fitted with a speed limiter which limits the speed to 90kmh.

This is 56mph.

Yes, it means that it isn't legally possible to drive at the speed limit for a sustained period of time in a UK registered HGV on a UK Motorway.

NVP · 4 Oct 2020 at 18:27

It says they are to be legally fitted yes, but it does not state the speed from what I can see?

VaderDSL · 4 Oct 2020 at 18:28

NVP said:
It states they are to be legally fitted. It does not state the speed from what I can see?

The EU mandate the limit as 90kmh/56mph. Directive 2002/85/EC https://www.legislation.gov.uk/eudr/2002/85/adopted

As usual, there are a few exemptions noted in there though.