2022 BRZ/GR86, Turbo?

IC3 · 6 Oct 2020 at 23:37

Just seen an article about a teasing post from Subaru, which mentioned a reveal of the new BRZ this fall.

https://www.pistonheads.com/news/ph-japanesecars/new-subaru-brz-confirmed-for-2020-launch/42924

Thoughts?

grudas · 7 Oct 2020 at 00:13

It'll be an interesting one. They've recently released the 4cyl supra in other countries and that makes around 260 with a 4 pot turbo. I wonder where a gt86 would place with similar power and flat 4? As a less premium sports coupe maybe?

Nasher · 7 Oct 2020 at 08:26

But its only going to be a big improvement if they keep the weight low.

I sold mine in Jan but I'd still have one over TT without even thinking about it.

Kenai · 7 Oct 2020 at 08:29

Even if they turbo it, they'll no doubt keep it a bit shy of the low end Supra power levels for separation and let tuners give people an easy +50bhp with maps. It wouldn't surprise me to see it at 230bhp ish running very low boost.

Lashout_UK · 7 Oct 2020 at 09:29

It looks like we might not get the Subaru iteration here, judging by the comments made by the UK MD this morning. I didn't quite read his comments as stating that but that's what some are running with. It wouldn't surprise me if they didn't bother, though, given regulations and volumes.

I'd hope the Toyota counterpart would make it and they do seem happier to offer the more niche performance-oriented stuff, so I live in hope.

Nasher · 7 Oct 2020 at 09:38

Subaru is pretty much dead in the UK :\

vanpeebles · 7 Oct 2020 at 09:43

Nasher said:
Subaru is pretty much dead in the UK :\

They went down the Daihatsu and Mitsubishi route of having a bad importer, instead of selling their own cars.

Lashout_UK · 7 Oct 2020 at 10:07

Well, that and the fact it hasn't offered anything remotely competitive in the European mainstream for the best part of, what, 15 years now?

The Running Man · 7 Oct 2020 at 10:09

Toyota though...

Although I wish it didn't have a bad subaru engine in it..

Conscript · 7 Oct 2020 at 11:25

Keeping half an eye on this. Still love mine, so not looking to upgrade at the moment - but if I was, then this would be a consideration, assuming it's still fun. Hoping it will have a manual gearbox option, although I'm not optimistic.

grudas · 7 Oct 2020 at 11:27

Conscript said:
Keeping half an eye on this. Still love mine, so not looking to upgrade at the moment - but if I was, then this would be a consideration, assuming it's still fun. Hoping it will have a manual gearbox option, although I'm not optimistic.

Apparently it will, same as gt86 and an auto.

Brz is not happening here... Gt86 hopefully!

Conscript · 7 Oct 2020 at 11:36

grudas said:
Apparently it will, same as gt86 and an auto.

Brz is not happening here... Gt86 hopefully!

Cool. I'm not bothered about the BRZ specifically. If it's like the current generation, then they are the same car anyway, with different badges and only minor suspension differences. I'd rather have the longer warranty and two dealers within 20 minutes that I got with the Toyota version.

Nasher · 7 Oct 2020 at 11:40

They dont have any differences since the facelift. Except for the front bumper design.

grudas · 7 Oct 2020 at 11:46

Conscript said:
Cool. I'm not bothered about the BRZ specifically. If it's like the current generation, then they are the same car anyway, with different badges and only minor suspension differences. I'd rather have the longer warranty and two dealers within 20 minutes that I got with the Toyota version.

It's weird how brz has sold so bad in UK yet gt86 I'd say sold well for the type of car that it is.

Brz always felt overpriced, there was always a good chunk difference between the two.

Nasher · 7 Oct 2020 at 13:41

There are hardly any Subaru dealers around but Toyota are everywhere. The BRZ is pretty rare in the UK, only something like 600. With some specs being in single digits.

IC3 · 7 Oct 2020 at 14:21

The Running Man said:
Toyota though...

Although I wish it didn't have a bad subaru engine in it..

IMHO, biggest let down in the GT86 was the engine, apart from that its a very capable chassis.

Nasher · 7 Oct 2020 at 14:32

It was the tune on the engine to get it through EU emissions tests :\

Its easy to fix though.

IC3 · 7 Oct 2020 at 14:35

Nasher said:
It was the tune on the engine to get it through EU emissions tests :\

Its easy to fix though.

Would prefer 1UZ or K20 in there tbh

vanpeebles · 7 Oct 2020 at 14:38

Needs a Super High Rev engine with 5 valves per cylinder.

Nasher · 7 Oct 2020 at 14:39

IC3 said:
Would prefer 1UZ or K20 in there tbh

But those wont meet modern regulations either. The modern Honda engines arent as lively as the old vtec ones.

Toyota had to ditch the 2zz for the same reason.