Winter Tyres ?

MadMan-JaMeS · 11 Oct 2020 at 00:34

Hello,

I need some new rear tyres for my Xsara Picasso 04 plate.

i’ve ordered a couple of Avon WT7’s to be fitted next week, at ATS for £80

But i’ve seen they are snow tyres, will the be pretty pants in our british weather ? It don’t snow much if at all. So i’m thinking maybe they are overkill and i’ll have issues in the dry or even wet roads ?

The front of my car was recently fitted with Michelin Primacy 4’s and i don’t intend on changing them.

Tee Hee Johnson · 11 Oct 2020 at 00:37

I'd just get normal tyres.

MadMan-JaMeS · 11 Oct 2020 at 00:41

Tee Hee Johnson said:
I'd just get normal tyres.

I’m thinking of swapping the for the ZT7 which are summer tyres and slightly cheaper anyway !

Tee Hee Johnson · 11 Oct 2020 at 00:43

MadMan-JaMeS said:
I’m thinking of swapping the for the ZT7 which are summer tyres and slightly cheaper anyway !

I have 4 of them on our clio, they seem fine for normal tyres.

Phemo · 11 Oct 2020 at 00:53

You shouldn't mix winter tyres and normal tyres so I'd definitely suggest getting them changed.

Roadrunner_668 · 11 Oct 2020 at 02:23

get the normal ones id also think about different brand i heard avon arent the best value and i had one come apart on the m25 once which was pretty scary ha ha

i had winter tyres on my astra when i got it and the road noise was horrid too

xs2man · 11 Oct 2020 at 02:30

I had Avon winters a few years back, and they were fine enough as winter tyres, good enough in most winter conditions, but man did they wear out quickly. Lucky if I got 8k out of them over 2 seasons.

As said above, I'd likely change to a different brand while changing to summer tyres. You could change to all seasons, but I suspect Oxford doesn't really get too harsh winters either.

Pence per mile you are probably cheapest with Michelin or Goodyear, with the added bonus of them likely being excellent tyres too. So I'd probably change them for another pair of the Primacy 4's you have on the other axel. They probably aren't THAT much more expensive, but I suspect they will last 2 or 3 times longer.

Roadrunner_668 · 11 Oct 2020 at 02:42

i use goodyear efficientgrip and they last a good 30 thousand motorway miles !

swap front to back when the fronts wore down half way

[TW]Fox · 11 Oct 2020 at 07:56

MadMan-JaMeS said:
The front of my car was recently fitted with Michelin Primacy 4’s and i don’t intend on changing them

So get 2 more of these for the back. Why would you do anything else?

MadMan-JaMeS · 11 Oct 2020 at 09:13

[TW]Fox said:
So get 2 more of these for the back. Why would you do anything else?

Price.

When i got the Primacy 4’s they was on offer. They aren’t anymore !

Terminal_Boy · 11 Oct 2020 at 09:33

It’s an 2004 Picasso in Oxford. Put a set of budget 4 season tyres on it and call it done.

[TW]Fox · 11 Oct 2020 at 09:33

MadMan-JaMeS said:
Price.

It's a Picasso so I doubt it's on 20 inch wheels. It's probably what 15 inch wheels max? There can't be that much price difference, certainly not enough to justify sticking two random winters on the back.

Just buy 2 Primacy 4 to match the front.

MadMan-JaMeS · 11 Oct 2020 at 09:43

185/65/R15

The Primacy 4’s are now £68.99 each.

Budget are £39.99 each

The Avon ZT7’s are on offer and come in at £78.98 for a pair so are even cheaper than the budget.
But i do love how most people here are looking down there nose at me cos its an old Picasso.

Didn’t realise you need an expensive car or a pretty flash one to get advice in here.

Nasher · 11 Oct 2020 at 09:59

I wouldn't use budgets on anything tbh. There is a very clear difference in bad conditions.

Fusion · 11 Oct 2020 at 10:02

I’d get the Primacys for the sake of an extra £29 each. How many miles do you do a year? You’ll possibly get 40-60k out of them.

MadMan-JaMeS · 11 Oct 2020 at 10:08

Fusion said:
I’d get the Primacys for the sake of an extra £29 each. How many miles do you do a year? You’ll possibly get 40-60k out of them.

10-15k at most.

Even lower since covid.
Annoyingly £60 is quite a difference right now, with xmas coming up and a few kids birthdays. Plus MOT soon !

WJA96 · 11 Oct 2020 at 10:08

MadMan-JaMeS said:
185/65/R15

The Primacy 4’s are now £68.99 each.

Budget are £39.99 each

The Avon ZT7’s are on offer and come in at £78.98 for a pair so are even cheaper than the budget.
But i do love how most people here are looking down there nose at me cos its an old Picasso.

Didn’t realise you need an expensive car or a pretty flash one to get advice in here.

I think you've missed the point. Posters on here aren't disrespecting your car, they're trying to tell you that spending the extra £60 on the better tyres could well save your life (and that of your passengers). Oddly, there is the thought that because you never drive the wheels off your car you don't need 'quality' tyres. The fact is that quality in this respect is literally a life-saver and you should find the extra money if you can.

When the question of the size of the wheels was discussed it was because the difference in price on a 15" tyre is fairly small compared to a 19" or 20" tyre where it can be hundreds of pounds extra to go from an Avon to Michelin brand tyre.

Terminal_Boy · 11 Oct 2020 at 10:41

MadMan-JaMeS said:
185/65/R15

The Primacy 4’s are now £68.99 each.

Budget are £39.99 each

The Avon ZT7’s are on offer and come in at £78.98 for a pair so are even cheaper than the budget.
But i do love how most people here are looking down there nose at me cos its an old Picasso.

Didn’t realise you need an expensive car or a pretty flash one to get advice in here.

I’m just trying to save you a few quid. I have a 2017 Duster and a 2008 Megane parked outside. Both shod with decent, but not top-end 4 season tyres as it’s all muddy B roads around here in winter.

BennyC · 11 Oct 2020 at 10:53

I put my Vredstein Wintrac's on at the weekend. I think these are now called 'Snowtracks'.

Worlds apart from P4S's I use in the summer obviously. The difference is notable but whether I find them to be an improvement I'm unsure but the added confidence that the compound should perform better, that said the wet rating is the same with poorer economy which probably offsets any cost saving

However for lower temperatures, icy conditions and on the off chance we do have snow I feel slightly more assured.

xs2man · 11 Oct 2020 at 11:20

MadMan-JaMeS said:
185/65/R15

The Primacy 4’s are now £68.99 each.

Budget are £39.99 each

The Avon ZT7’s are on offer and come in at £78.98 for a pair so are even cheaper than the budget.
But i do love how most people here are looking down there nose at me cos its an old Picasso.

Didn’t realise you need an expensive car or a pretty flash one to get advice in here.

Goodyear Efficient Grips are £39.99 each at Costco just now. They will be a MUCH better tyre than the Avons. I'd still prefer to have matching tyres all round, but if money really is that tight, then these would work much better.

https://www.costco.co.uk/Tyres-Auto...-R15-92-T-EFFICIENTGRIP-COMPACT/tire/p/428341