Talk to me about VWs

snips86x · 14 Oct 2020 at 15:10

Kenai said:
But the same money can get you into newer stuff, on a newer chassis platform (MQB vs PQ35 here) and (in the case of that Leon I linked above) possibly even newer tech like Android Auto, Apple Car Play etc. Parking sensors and sat nav isn't something to get excited about on a 10k car.

You say that but I have none of the above. I don't particularly care for them either but CC is definitely something I'm looking for now, with the motorway miles I'm doing atm.

The seat is definitely a contender, found a nice one that got me thinking.

jsmoke · 14 Oct 2020 at 15:11

How I'll always remember sciroccos.

Rroff · 14 Oct 2020 at 15:11

Kenai said:
But the same money can get you into newer stuff, on a newer chassis platform (MQB vs PQ35 here) and (in the case of that Leon I linked above) possibly even newer tech like Android Auto, Apple Car Play etc. Parking sensors and sat nav isn't something to get excited about on a 10k car.

Was just an example features wise as it isn't uncommon on other makes/models of around the era the Scirocco platform comes from to be lacking in those kind of features until their next generation.

Agreed on the rest of the point though.

[TW]Fox · 14 Oct 2020 at 15:13

Rroff said:
Was just an example features wise as it isn't uncommon on other makes/models of around the era the Scirocco platform comes from to be lacking in those kind of features until their next generation

I don't think this is true at all personally. Some VW cars have satnav, some don't. Just like some Seats do and some don't.

The only notable thing VW have been very good at including as standard is radar cruise.

Rroff · 14 Oct 2020 at 15:25

[TW]Fox said:
I don't think this is true at all personally. Some VW cars have satnav, some don't. Just like some Seats do and some don't.

The only notable thing VW have been very good at including as standard is radar cruise.

I don't really have broad enough experience to compare tier to tier through the whole product range - but from my experience at the kind of tiers I have experience of it tends to be true at least.

m@rty · 14 Oct 2020 at 15:41

I had a 2016 VW Scirocco R DSG until I got rid of it last year.

Great looking car and it was fun to drive, especially that 'suck you in to the seat' feeling when you put the foot down.

However it just lacked some of the niceties of the Golf such as a rear view camera and electric folding door mirrors.

The main issue I had was the poor visibility, due to the small rear window and the oversized rear pillars.

I must admit though I would be tempted if they released a new version.

Jez · 14 Oct 2020 at 15:46

Rroff said:
I don't really have broad enough experience to compare tier to tier through the whole product range - but from my experience at the kind of tiers I have experience of it tends to be true at least.

Really not sure that VW generally come ahead of the pack when it comes to general equipment found in used models? Virtually every car which i have bought, including a Mercedes from 1999, has had parking sensors and satnav

Kenai · 14 Oct 2020 at 15:57

Rroff said:
Was just an example features wise as it isn't uncommon on other makes/models of around the era the Scirocco platform comes from to be lacking in those kind of features until their next generation.

Agreed on the rest of the point though.

The problem the Scirocco has is that you can buy cars from the next generation for the same money, so it ends up outgunned on features £ for £ because you're paying a (very big imo) premium for the styling of the car. You can get into a Mk7 GTD for example if you want to stay in the VW stable - newer platform, newer tech, newer interior design etc.

gailjon · 14 Oct 2020 at 16:37

Is an Audi A5 out of the question price wise? There are loads of used ones around.

[TW]Fox · 14 Oct 2020 at 16:45

gailjon said:
Is an Audi A5 out of the question price wise? There are loads of used ones around.

2014ish ones are awful cars though. It was dated when it came out let alone towards the end of its life.

snips86x · 14 Oct 2020 at 16:58

gailjon said:
Is an Audi A5 out of the question price wise? There are loads of used ones around.

They have been on my radar to be honest, I do like them.

Rroff · 14 Oct 2020 at 17:02

Jez said:
Really not sure that VW generally come ahead of the pack when it comes to general equipment found in used models? Virtually every car which i have bought, including a Mercedes from 1999, has had parking sensors and satnav

Wasn't so much head of the pack so much - but that they tended to have a good set of features which are now common on modern cars, when many of the alternatives were missing them - at least in the segment I have experience of - Mercedes is really in a different segment as well

There were cars with a much better feature set for the same era but that is another matter again.

snips86x · 14 Oct 2020 at 17:50

gailjon said:
Is an Audi A5 out of the question price wise? There are loads of used ones around.

What would you recommend? 2.0, 2.7 or 3.0?
3.0 is kinda tempting but 2.0 makes more sense.

Edit: Just realised the 2.7 has 10hp less than the 2.0 so not worth it.

Rroff · 14 Oct 2020 at 17:55

snips86x said:
What would you recommend? 2.0, 2.7 or 3.0?
3.0 is kinda tempting but 2.0 makes more sense.

What is the tax like on the 3.0?

I like my 3L V6s but the tax tends to be a big jump up.

Otherwise I'd say 3.0 every day as the refinement and power delivery tends to be so nice over a regular 4 cylinder.

snips86x · 14 Oct 2020 at 18:00

Rroff said:
What is the tax like on the 3.0?

I like my 3L V6s but the tax tends to be a big jump up.

Otherwise I'd say 3.0 every day as the refinement and power delivery tends to be so nice over a regular 4 cylinder.

£240 but defeats the point of me wanting something more economical. My TTS in comparison is £290, I was looking for something sub £100 in road tax so I guess it doesn't work for me.

I'm selling up next year and moving in with a family member to save some extra cash so I can move to my partners in the next 12 months, as I'll need a sizable deposit, Every little helps.

Nasher · 14 Oct 2020 at 18:02

Low tax now is either a city car or a pre-2018 cheat car.

Rroff · 14 Oct 2020 at 18:03

snips86x said:
£240 but defeats the point of me wanting something more economical. My TTS in comparison is £290, I was looking for something sub £100 in road tax so I guess it doesn't work for me.

I'm selling up next year and moving in with a family member to save some extra cash so I can move to my partners in the next 12 months, as I'll need a sizable deposit, Every little helps.

Yeah just had a look - only the 3.2 is a big jump - I was expecting the 3.0 to be higher than the 2.0 and was expecting something closer to £500.

LiE · 14 Oct 2020 at 18:06

The Seat Leon 2.0 is a solid shout. FR trim with tech pack eg. https://www.autotrader.co.uk/car-de...d=Used&onesearchad=Nearly New&onesearchad=New

Drop a Revo stage 1 map and should be good for 230ps https://www.onlyrevo.com/product-details/software/seat/leon-mk3-2012-/200/stage-1

snips86x · 14 Oct 2020 at 18:07

LiE said:
The Seat Leon 2.0 is a solid shout. FR trim with tech pack eg. https://www.autotrader.co.uk/car-details/202010054633024?minimum-badge-engine-size=2.0&advertising-location=at_cars&exclude-writeoff-categories=on&price-to=11000&postcode=MK2 2LQ&body-type=Hatchback&model=LEON&sort=price-desc&page=4&make=SEAT&include-delivery-option=on&onesearchad=Used&onesearchad=Nearly New&onesearchad=New

Drop a Revo stage 1 map and should be good for 230ps https://www.onlyrevo.com/product-details/software/seat/leon-mk3-2012-/200/stage-1
https://www.autotrader.co.uk/car-de...d=Used&onesearchad=Nearly New&onesearchad=New

You read my mind and actually, the few I've looked at are really nice!!

LiE · 14 Oct 2020 at 18:20

snips86x said:
You read my mind and actually, the few I've looked at are really nice!!

Those specific wheels really make the car look better.