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There very little chance that any card bought today will be running games as well in 3 or 4 years time using the same settings. That's never been the case at any other point 8n history.
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What evidence you do you actually have to support your "theory" that the cards obsolete and needing to run lower details blah blah, or did you climb aboard the bandwagon as per the usual suspects ?
That is fair enough. At the end of the day if it makes you happy then that is all that matters.Yeah it all depends entirely on your own use case. Some people are happy to lower details, some know they will upgrade next gen too and some don't care and just wanted the card. They are all totally fine and up to them, but I plan on keeping a card for a couple of gens and personally think spending £650 on a card to not run maxed out even in a year would be ridiculous.
Each to their own though and I am glad you enjoy it.
The way the card is designed it would only have the option of being 10gb or 20gb. But then unless Nvidia want to take smaller profits (they are not that type of company) then the price would be higher. I am actually very happy they went this route, as I would be getting a 3070 otherwise, as no way would I pay £900+ for a 3080.I still don't understand why the 3080 has less VRAM than the 1080Ti from 2017 too, it's perplexing to me that they would go down, even if it's only a small amount.
That is fair enough. At the end of the day if it makes you happy then that is all that matters.
The way the card is designed it would only have the option of being 10gb or 20gb. But then unless Nvidia want to take smaller profits (they are not that type of company) then the price would be higher. I am actually very happy they went this route, as I would be getting a 3070 otherwise, as no way would I pay £900+ for a 3080.
I have not jumped on anyones bandwagon or stated that this WILL happen. There are already a couple of games pushing 10GB (Flight Sim as an example)
Yep. There is not a single game that needs more than 10gb from what I have seen.I don't think flight sim is actually "pushing" the 3080's 10gb of VRAM. It is still outperforming the 2080Ti and its 11gb of VRAM.
I have not jumped on anyones bandwagon or stated that this WILL happen. There are already a couple of games pushing 10GB (Flight Sim as an example) though, and quite a few that are pushing 8GB. With new consoles coming out and next gen consoles coming there will be engine changes and graphical improvements which generally lead to more memory, both system and video being used.
I still don't understand why the 3080 has less VRAM than the 1080Ti from 2017 too, it's perplexing to me that they would go down, even if it's only a small amount. I am waiting to see what else comes out to try and alleviate any problems that potential memory limitations may cause. I may end up being wrong and that's totally fine, I am not calling people who buy one an idiot or anything I am just going on what I expect will happen.
Flight Sim, great example. A game from Microsoft who also make consoles. The next Microsoft console has a total of 16GB of RAM made up of 10GB fast GDDR6 and 6GB slower GDDR6. Do you really think Microsoft don't know what they are doing?
Now forgetting Microsoft, what percentage of PC gamers do you think will buy/can afford to buy video cards with more than 10GB of VRAM? Take a look at Steam's hardware survey for a rough idea.
Lastly as a 1080Ti owner I have never needed 11GB of VRAM. It has that amount due to its address bus.
I have not jumped on anyones bandwagon or stated that this WILL happen. There are already a couple of games pushing 10GB (Flight Sim as an example) though, and quite a few that are pushing 8GB. With new consoles coming out and next gen consoles coming there will be engine changes and graphical improvements which generally lead to more memory, both system and video being used.
I still don't understand why the 3080 has less VRAM than the 1080Ti from 2017 too, it's perplexing to me that they would go down, even if it's only a small amount. I am waiting to see what else comes out to try and alleviate any problems that potential memory limitations may cause. I may end up being wrong and that's totally fine, I am not calling people who buy one an idiot or anything I am just going on what I expect will happen.
I don't think flight sim is actually "pushing" the 3080's 10gb of VRAM. It is still outperforming the 2080Ti and its 11gb of VRAM.
Outperform by 2-3 FPS lol, sure.
Makes sense.A better question might be why did the 1080Ti have so much, did it need that much to begin with? The answer to that is: so far nothing has used more than 8Gb of RAM with an extreme few exceptions, and those exception DO NOT run with a playable frame rate on a 1080Ti when consuming that much vRAM. So the conclusion there is it had too much vRAM to ever be useful. My personal theory is that cards can only have specific configs of vRAM on them due to architecture limitations (usually some multiple of somthing) and that the 1080Ti because of its specific architecture could either have 11Gb or some much smaller amount like 5.5Gb, and they opted to over compensate rather than undercompensate, so there was no bottleneck.
Clutching at straws.Outperform by 2-3 FPS lol, sure.
+1More is more. Less vram, more performance.
And it's more like 8 FPS (stock v stock) comparing a STRIX to an FE in a title where every GPU has very low FPS numbers.
Outperform by 2-3 FPS lol, sure.
Says the the person who fans Intel for its 2-3fps advantages lol
Outperform by 2-3 FPS lol, sure.
LulwutFlight sym is CPU limited.
It's been reported: https://www.notebookcheck.net/Micro...FPS-at-FHD-on-high-end-hardware.489254.0.htmlLulwut
Now forgetting Microsoft, what percentage of PC gamers do you think will buy/can afford to buy video cards with more than 10GB of VRAM? Take a look at Steam's hardware survey for a rough idea.
I would be very reluctant to do that for it to not be able to max games in a year and no I am not saying this WILL happen, but I can't help but feel it might.