10GB vram enough for the 3080? Discuss..

TNA · 19 Oct 2020 at 18:38

LoadsaMoney said:
AMDs bringing 10GB cards too, so its enough now

Lol

PrincessFrosty · 19 Oct 2020 at 18:43

Wrinkly said:
I'm guessing you didn't read these 78 pages? We have yet to see why 10GB on a 3080 isn't enough for the next few years.

Who needs to READ the pages? When you can simply count them!

I hope you didn't read all these arguments? That sounds tedious and exhausting, it's way easier just to look at the highest page number and determine the validity of the arguments based on that. I believe the magic number is page 42, once a thread gets past 42 then it's settled, it definitely IS an issue.

Grim5 · 19 Oct 2020 at 18:46

LoadsaMoney said:
AMDs bringing 10GB cards too, so its enough now

not confirmed which models they line up with but yes: AMD has 10gb, 12gb and 16gb rdna2 cards coming

Wrinkly · 19 Oct 2020 at 18:58

PrincessFrosty said:
Who needs to READ the pages? When you can simply count them!

I hope you didn't read all these arguments? That sounds tedious and exhausting, it's way easier just to look at the highest page number and determine the validity of the arguments based on that. I believe the magic number is page 42, once a thread gets past 42 then it's settled, it definitely IS an issue.

42

opethdisciple · 19 Oct 2020 at 20:54

Grim5 said:
not confirmed which models they line up with but yes: AMD has 10gb, 12gb and 16gb rdna2 cards coming

Well if that is true that changes everything!

If the 16GB is the 3090 equivalent the 12GB the 3080 and the 10GB the 3070 then a 3080 only having 10GB is more or less irrelevant.

But remember more vram doesn't mean more performance.

Look at how 'fantastic' the Radeon 7 is with it's whopping 16GB of vram.

Dave2150 · 19 Oct 2020 at 21:00

LoadsaMoney said:
AMDs bringing 10GB cards too, so its enough now

On their 3070 equivalent most likely. Perhaps 3060 equivalent. 10GB is plenty for 1080P/1440P for the lifetime of this class of card

Grim5 · 19 Oct 2020 at 21:03

AMD seems to be targeting Nvidia's segments

10gb card to battle against Nvidia's 8gb 3070
12gb card against Nvidia's 10gb 3080
16gb - not sure what's going on there, no chance against 24gb for raw memory capacity. For now I'll assume AMD either did not know about the 3090 or received misleading leaks from Nvidia for its specs

Dave2150 · 19 Oct 2020 at 21:07

opethdisciple said:
Look at how 'fantastic' the Radeon 7 is with it's whopping 16GB of vram.

The Radeon VII was a fantastic buy for those needing it's compute performance (for work), on top of playing games. It was also a good buy for anyone interested in selling their card for more than they paid for it.

I bought mine on launch for £630 from OCUK. I'll be making a profit when I sell it (go check sold Radeon VII prices on Ebay....).

FuryX, with it's whopping 4GB VRAM (I'm being sarcastic, for the slow amongst us) is an example of a GPU with less VRAM than required. That card aged terribly due to running out of VRAM in many games. Same will be true of the 3080 10GB.

opethdisciple · 19 Oct 2020 at 22:47

Dave2150 said:
The Radeon VII was a fantastic buy for those needing it's compute performance (for work), on top of playing games. It was also a good buy for anyone interested in selling their card for more than they paid for it.

I bought mine on launch for £630 from OCUK. I'll be making a profit when I sell it (go check sold Radeon VII prices on Ebay....).

FuryX, with it's whopping 4GB VRAM (I'm being sarcastic, for the slow amongst us) is an example of a GPU with less VRAM than required. That card aged terribly due to running out of VRAM in many games. Same will be true of the 3080 10GB.

My only point was that the 16GB of vram didn't help the Radeon 7 in games at all. It didn't have enough raw power in comparison to say the 2080ti.

Richdog · 20 Oct 2020 at 04:33

opethdisciple said:
But remember more vram doesn't mean more performance.

Wow, so many pages in this thread and yet it has somehow devolved to people feeling the need to tell people how adding more VRAM does not in fact increase the computational horsepower of a GPU? Eek.

TNA · 20 Oct 2020 at 06:04

Richdog said:
Wow, so many pages in this thread and yet it has somehow devolved to people feeling the need to tell people how adding more VRAM does not in fact increase the computational horsepower of a GPU? Eek.

Rich coming from the guy who regularly insinuates and at times outright calls people mugs for buying a 3090.

Constantly belittling other members, using straw man tactic regularly and finally sticking members on ignore after getting intellectually outclassed by them. Very evolved behaviour that

Nablaoperator · 20 Oct 2020 at 07:08

This thread is one of the most boring discussions I have seen.. there's been no new line of reasoning beyond the first few pages..

Get creative guys, argue on data structures and divergence.. and specify a theoretical scenario that could cause memory overflows in real world situations

TNA said:
intellectually outclassed

It's the video cards section ???!!!

TNA · 20 Oct 2020 at 07:12

Nablaoperator said:
This thread is one of the most boring discussions I have seen.. there's been no new line of reasoning beyond the first few pages..

It's the video cards section ???!!!

I know. The only reason I said that is because of the way he goes about acting and putting people down, but he does not like the taste of his own medicine

Besides, if you feel this way, why do you keep visiting the thread? What other reasoning are you expecting, as you say it is a GPU thread.

Nablaoperator · 20 Oct 2020 at 07:15

Just to mess around when I am getting bored with no new Navi leaks

TNA · 20 Oct 2020 at 07:21

Nablaoperator said:
Just to mess around when I am getting bored with no new Navi leaks

So you are bored and decide to enter a boring thread and make a boring post yourself?

Won’t be long now, hopefully Navi delivers and AMD actually have more than a few thousand cards ready for sale

opethdisciple · 20 Oct 2020 at 12:06

Richdog said:
Wow, so many pages in this thread and yet it has somehow devolved to people feeling the need to tell people how adding more VRAM does not in fact increase the computational horsepower of a GPU? Eek.

I think it's a fair statement. Because the way people talk about vram in this thread makes it sound like more vram automatically equals more performance. Which is doesn't.

wunkley · 20 Oct 2020 at 14:49

PrincessFrosty said:
Who needs to READ the pages? When you can simply count them!

I hope you didn't read all these arguments? That sounds tedious and exhausting, it's way easier just to look at the highest page number and determine the validity of the arguments based on that. I believe the magic number is page 42, once a thread gets past 42 then it's settled, it definitely IS an issue.

Are you a woman?

PrincessFrosty · 20 Oct 2020 at 15:23

wunkley said:
Are you a woman?

No, are you?

wunkley · 20 Oct 2020 at 15:53

PrincessFrosty said:
No, are you?

( . Y . )

PrincessFrosty · 20 Oct 2020 at 16:18

wunkley said:
Well your username coupled with your odd, irrational little outbursts over a tedious discussion on a computer forum, I did wonder ....

That's not a particularly good faith representation. I've made fairly well informed arguments for the topic of this thread, by both my own experimentation and collecting evidence and presenting it clearly. It's not tedious for me, quite the opposite it's stimulating to learn new things, learn the nuance of a topic, and learn how to upgrade and configure software to get a more accurate picture of metrics for things like vRAM use. I've learned a whole bunch both from this thread, but also the research it has forced me to do.

If you find it tedious I suggest you find some self control and simply not read the thread, why are you reading something you find tedious?