RYZEN 5000 SERIES NOW ONLINE - 5950X, 5900X, 5800X & 5600X COMING NOV 5TH AT 5PM NO COMPETITORS

breadturbo · 24 Oct 2020 at 17:31

Question

Tempted to get my first AMD since my old Opteron 146 many years ago

Do AMD chips reduce clocks when more threads are in use same as Intel? and if so how is overclocking for AMD? can they be clocked up to run same on all cores?

ta

Combat Fighter · 24 Oct 2020 at 18:32

benjii said:
I've opted for the Gigabyte X570 Aorus Master, I've got 32GB of the 8Pack 3600Mhz to slap in it too. It should do nicely with a 5900X!

Good choice.

X570 for the win!

Guest2 · 24 Oct 2020 at 18:56

benjii said:
That's the RAM I got, although it was £199.99 when I bought it! I got it a little while ago, but I'm not concerned about the speeds. It should do 3800Mhz without much troubles and 4000Mhz if I loosen the timings a bit. I'll have to check the reviews to see whether or not I should favour speed or timings.

Got twitchy and ordered them too. Best just having them before stock goes low/runs out or the price goes up as everyone starts buying parts for a new build.
Just the 5900X now. At least if I can't get a 5 series at launch I have the option of picking up a 3900 then selling it on for a 5 series at a later date

2 x 16GB CAS16 seemed like the best option. I watched a Youtube vid of 8 pack showing some of the team group 8 pack edition 3200mhz modules running them close to 4000mhz

Xelene · 24 Oct 2020 at 21:40

breadturbo said:
Question

Tempted to get my first AMD since my old Opteron 146 many years ago
Do AMD chips reduce clocks when more threads are in use same as Intel? and if so how is overclocking for AMD? can they be clocked up to run same on all cores?

ta

Stock yes, kind of. Have a look at https://www.guru3d.com/articles-pages/clocktuner-for-ryzen-ctr-guide-download,1.html

We don't know how Zen3 will behave, but would expect it to be akin to Zen2

My Zen+ is running 4.0 across all cores. I think the base was 3.4 and boost 3.8 stock

Dontrocktheboat · 25 Oct 2020 at 08:04

Gigabyte boards :rolleyes:

terrible bios updates. Never again.

B550 MSI Tomahawk does everything i need and then some.
For £150 cant beat that.

But AMD prices are a bloody ripoff these days.

Almost £300 quid for 6core CPU? Are you aving a laugh??

I got a 8 core 1700 Ryzen for £320, 4 years ago...
6core 2600x for £220...

like wtf?

Combat Fighter · 25 Oct 2020 at 08:39

Guest2 said:
Just the 5900X now. At least if I can't get a 5 series at launch I have the option of picking up a 3900 then selling it on for a 5 series at a later date

Im in the same boat as you. As a plan B I have been keeping an eye out on people selling second hand 3900X. Saw one the other day go for £320 delivered.

Guest2 · 25 Oct 2020 at 09:04

Combat Fighter said:
Im in the same boat as you. As a plan B I have been keeping an eye out on people selling second hand 3900X. Saw one the other day go for £320 delivered.

Yeh, noticed a couple had sold recently for £310... now the question is, do you think the 5900X is worth the extra £220 over the 5900X? Is the 5900X really 70% better

Joxeon · 25 Oct 2020 at 09:09

Guest2 said:
Yeh, noticed a couple had sold recently for £310... now the question is, do you think the 5900X is worth the extra £220 over the 5900X? Is the 5900X really 70% better

Unless you game at 1080p or make money on your PC from time sensitive work then probably not.

benjii · 25 Oct 2020 at 09:36

Dontrocktheboat said:
Gigabyte boards terrible bios updates. Never again.

I've had Gigabyte boards in at least one of my PCs since the X58 days, I can't say I've ever had a problem with them. The same can be said of Asus too. I haven't had any MSI boards in a long time though.

vapor matt · 25 Oct 2020 at 09:41

Dontrocktheboat said:
Gigabyte boards terrible bios updates. Never again.

Have to say i used to be an asus fan, but since having the gigabyte aorus extreme boards i love um, never had any bios update issues, and always proven rock solid. the bios is different to asus, but once you get your head around it, its fine and works well. very well made boards gigabyte

Combat Fighter · 25 Oct 2020 at 09:45

Guest2 said:
Yeh, noticed a couple had sold recently for £310... now the question is, do you think the 5900X is worth the extra £220 over the 5900X? Is the 5900X really 70% better

Thats the question that keeps going round in my mind! Your probably be able to snag one for £300 when the new ones come out which does seem a very good bargain.

benjii · 25 Oct 2020 at 09:55

Combat Fighter said:
Thats the question that keeps going round in my mind! Your probably be able to snag one for £300 when the new ones come out which does seem a very good bargain.

This train of thought comes up on every new hardware release. If you want the very best value for money, buying peoples last gen hardware as they flood the market and tank the price is always the best option. However, if you just want the best performance, then hop on the new one.

jigger · 25 Oct 2020 at 09:57

Guest2 said:
Yeh, noticed a couple had sold recently for £310... now the question is, do you think the 5900X is worth the extra £220 over the 5900X? Is the 5900X really 70% better

Probably we’ll find out soon, but £310 for a 3900X is a really nice price.

clv101 · 25 Oct 2020 at 10:15

Guest2 said:
Yeh, noticed a couple had sold recently for £310... now the question is, do you think the 5900X is worth the extra £220 over the 3900X? Is the 5900X really 70% better

Of course not, performance never scales linearly at the top end, with new releases. Buying high end on release is never going to be good value for money, previous generation, on the used market will offer significantly better value.

jigger · 25 Oct 2020 at 10:19

clv101 said:
Of course not, performance never scales linearly at the top end, with new releases. Buying high end on release is never going to be good value for money, previous generation, on the used market will offer significantly better value.

My 1800X has been decent value. So was my R9 290X.

Mr Oblong · 25 Oct 2020 at 12:41

clv101 said:
Of course not, performance never scales linearly at the top end, with new releases. Buying high end on release is never going to be good value for money, previous generation, on the used market will offer significantly better value.

Mostly I agree, but sometimes forward planning to have the HT version of Intel 4 cores, or a couple extra cores, can delay an upgrade another couple of years.

Guest2 · 25 Oct 2020 at 14:40

clv101 said:
Of course not, performance never scales linearly at the top end, with new releases. Buying high end on release is never going to be good value for money, previous generation, on the used market will offer significantly better value.

I was being sarcastic. I know it wont be 70% really

There are plenty of 3900X / 3900XT / 3950X chips for £300 - £500. I'll still hold out for a 5900X but if I can't get one at least there are options

Chaos666 · 25 Oct 2020 at 19:42

jigger said:
My 1800X has been decent value. So was my R9 290X.

1800x actually was a terrible value... r7 1700 was the way to go

jigger · 25 Oct 2020 at 19:46

Chaos666 said:
1800x actually was a terrible value... r7 1700 was the way to go

It’s unlikely any 1700 would do 4.1 and run 4x8gb at 3333. I’m pretty sure I would have upgraded a 1700 by now.

Chaos666 · 25 Oct 2020 at 20:02

idk.. nowadays these are cheap.. but when launched the price was just to much...
also 3333mhz memory on 1800x? :O

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