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Nope 24 threads. Only some 3000g and maybe oddball Chinese OEM only SKUs have multithreading disabled.
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AMD Zen 3 (5000 Series), rumored 17% IPC gain.
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Oh really? Do Apple whack up the prices on iPhones one hour after opening orders?
It's a choice- we're entitled to call it out and not reward it.
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Apple are direct to consumer and control manufacturering with an iron fist - not comparible here I'm afraid
Of course it is. Apple have choice. So do end retailers.
To be fair Apple go straight in with astronomical prices, no room to increase within any reason
A 3090 is 10% faster than a 3080 and is priced at over twice the price. That's's astronomical, surely? And yet the gouging continues above that at many places.
Apple was just an example, not all retailers do this. Some honour RRP even for items in demand. Not necessarily because they hate money, but because they know customers can punish them for profiteering by avoiding them.
PC enthusiasts basically put up with it. THAT'S the difference.The other reasons offered are trivia and apologia.
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Looking at the 5700k or 5800k coming from my 6850k it should be a nice upgrade, It will be nice to have an AMD CPU again! The last I had was a Athlon XP 1800+ 
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titans were even more expensive and people still have been buying them... ;]
it will be a good upgrade ... definitelyLooking at the 5700k or 5800k coming from my 6850k it should be a nice upgrade, It will be nice to have an AMD CPU again! The last I had was a Athlon XP 1800+
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Its 12C/24T and almost the same performance as the Ryzen 9 3900X. Its really a bargain if you get it as part of a bundle at that price. Got a mate to upgrade from a Phenom II X6 to one. Fantastic CPU!
Yeah I just had a look some really good deal on them. I somehow got it stuck in my head it was a non SMT chip like the 3500X.
Yeah no apologies here for the tactics we've seen. But Apple clearly not a good example if we're looking for a company that is reasonable with pricing
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Between waiting for my new GPU and the release of the 5950x this has been a VERY long month
And Titans offered workstation capabilities that the 3090 doesn't.
Regardless, you're getting bogged down in minutia- companies have a choice whether or not to gouge, it is not universal or inevitable.
Again the point is not 'reasonable' pricing, it's about retailer pricing decisions undermining consumer expectations (and therefore trust) and how that it a choice we needn't excuse.Yeah no apologies here for the tactics we've seen. But Apple clearly not a good example if we're looking for a company that is reasonable with pricing
Of course they're free to do it, especially because PC enthusiasts are an impatient and (ultimately) tolerant group. Quick to forgive when the new shiny is for sale.
Because pricing is a relevant factor in all price
erformance discussions, so we were talking about that.No one is stopping you from talking about Passmark, so feel free.
For anyone not already spending £700+ on a GPU then this CPU with the extra £150 into the GPU would give more gaming performance that a 5600X.
My basket at Overclockers UK:
Total: £148.69 (includes shipping: £8.70)
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For anyone not already spending £700+ on a GPU then this CPU with the extra £150 into the GPU would give more gaming performance that a 5600X.
My basket at Overclockers UK:
Total: £148.69 (includes shipping: £8.70)
Banish that CPU to the phantom zone with his 14nm brothers!
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