The thread which sometimes talks about RDNA2

Nablaoperator · 28 Oct 2020 at 19:48

Grim5 said:
Something else doesnt make sense to me

You guys were promising that RDNA2 would scale like a beast and 80CU would beat the 3090 - you guys never knew about RAGE or SAM. So why is it that without RAGE and SAM it doesn't beat the 3090, even though it has a really high clock speed, more IPC than RDNA 1 and double the CU of RDNA1. Something is off, why are the RDNA2 cards scaling so poorly?

300W?? that was obvious wasnt it?

Mercutio · 28 Oct 2020 at 19:48

xrs said:
Looking at a 5900x and a 6800xt upgrade. Forgive me if this has already been addressed!
But what is the best way to justify these expenses to the other half? I don't know the best way to approach the subject. She often physically assaults me and I can't remember the safety word. I am a loud screamer - I don't know if this helps.

"the next generation of kit will need new everything. This ones a big "last upgrade for a while" to make the most of what's good now" is basically my line

Hotwired · 28 Oct 2020 at 19:49

Grim5 said:
Something else doesnt make sense to me

You guys were promising that RDNA2 would scale like a beast and 80CU would beat the 3090 - you guys never knew about RAGE or SAM. So why is it that without RAGE and SAM it doesn't beat the 3090, even though it has a really high clock speed, more IPC than RDNA 1 and double the CU of RDNA1. Something is off, why are the RDNA2 cards scaling so poorly?

You should probably quote the guy you're talking about.

And even then... this is a forum of random people making guesses. Why are you valuing that kind of unprofessional guesswork as a worthy figure to argue on.

Frubeling · 28 Oct 2020 at 19:49

All my "trolling" aside, assuming the pricing on these maintains I'll feel a LOT more inclined to go ahead with a second computer in a smaller form factor for 4K60 gaming in the living room so I don't have to lug my main down two flights of stairs every time I want to play with my family

LtMatt · 28 Oct 2020 at 19:49

Doobedoo said:

You must not be married.

uscool · 28 Oct 2020 at 19:49

pastymuncher said:
Sadly yet another overpriced series of cards. Performance looks great and about time they fought back. The 6800 was looking good but is even more stupidly priced than the already overpriced 3070. At this rate I will be looking to buy someones used 3070/6800 from the MM in a year or so time.

Trading blows with the opposition and priced lower how is it stupidly priced ? $500 off against the 3090

You want the others around £100-£150 lower you think that's viable ?

RBImGuy · 28 Oct 2020 at 19:51

Grim5 said:
Something else doesnt make sense to me

You guys were promising that RDNA2 would scale like a beast and 80CU would beat the 3090 - you guys never knew about RAGE or SAM. So why is it that without RAGE and SAM it doesn't beat the 3090, even though it has a really high clock speed, more IPC than RDNA 1 and double the CU of RDNA1. Something is off, why are the RDNA2 cards scaling so poorly?

AIB cards will OC and beat the 3090, anything else?

nutsnut · 28 Oct 2020 at 19:51

My 5700xt will hit 2075 to 2100 in game, with a mild under clock.

Hoping these will easily hold 2200 approaching 2300.

Mercutio · 28 Oct 2020 at 19:51

I'm probably 5900X and the 6800xt tbh. New top end of both without going ultra silly. The SAM bit is the cherry.

We'll see what availability is like. Assuming the usual mindshare stuff, there will be oodles of (less well informed

) folks sat waiting on nvidia stuff (especially with the "but what about RT?!" arguments). TSMC might well have been able to get AMD well stocked, we'll see.

I'm just after something that can get close to my 4k's 120hz upper range in raster and I'm happy.

Grim5 · 28 Oct 2020 at 19:54

RBImGuy said:
AIB cards will OC and beat the 3090, anything else?

did AMD say there are AIB 6900XT coming, I thought the rumour was for no AIB cards

And you're saying the 6900xt will beat the 3090 with RAGE and SAM turned off as long as you OC it?

4K8KW10 · 28 Oct 2020 at 19:54

Grim5 said:
Something else doesnt make sense to me

You guys were promising that RDNA2 would scale like a beast and 80CU would beat the 3090 - you guys never knew about RAGE or SAM. So why is it that without RAGE and SAM it doesn't beat the 3090, even though it has a really high clock speed, more IPC than RDNA 1 and double the CU of RDNA1. Something is off, why are the RDNA2 cards scaling so poorly?

RAGE is a new name for the Uber mode here: https://www.techpowerup.com/review/amd-r9-290x/27.html
and Turbo mode there: https://www.techpowerup.com/review/amd-radeon-rx-vega-64/31.html

It's only an option for you if you are inclined to seek quietness rather than super performance.

SAM is a very smart feature inviting you to go all-AMD configuration.
Very smart by AMD - this is probably the best graphics cards launch it has had in the recent decade. :eek:

Nvidia has no competition for the RX 6800, it needs something between RTX 3070 and RTX 3080.

uscool · 28 Oct 2020 at 19:54

5900x would have been 5800x if it wasn't so closely priced to go with 6800xt for next build to go with 1440p 240hz screen , don't care much for ray tracing think that's probably for next gen

Let's see how much more boost will be with partner cards

Ross Thomson · 28 Oct 2020 at 19:55

Kamakazie! said:
Did you take into account that the 6800 benches uses the Smart Access Memory (4-13% uplift on the 6800XT) and the 6900XT benches use both that & Rage mode?

never mind

Grim5 · 28 Oct 2020 at 19:56

Hotwired said:
You should probably quote the guy you're talking about.

And even then... this is a forum of random people making guesses. Why are you valuing that kind of unprofessional guesswork as a worthy figure to argue on.

Its been tons of people in the main RDNA 2 thread

Boomstick777 · 28 Oct 2020 at 19:56

uscool said:
5900x with 6800xt for next build to go with 1440p 240hz screen , don't care much for ray tracing think that's probably for next gen

I'm doing the same, all new build with 5900x and 6800 XT.

Expensive time of year xD

ALXAndy · 28 Oct 2020 at 19:56

Don't discount the 6800 too quickly. If it overclocks well it could well be 5700 vs XT all over again.

Martini1991 · 28 Oct 2020 at 19:57

shankly1985 said:
People wasn't expecting this shake up The best thing we all win here.

Only Nvidia/AMD win.

It's great that AMD now potentially have the absolute best kit available.
But the consumer's still paying through the nose.

This is less of a shake up and more of a "Joining the club"

Hotwired · 28 Oct 2020 at 19:57

Grim5 said:
Its been tons of people in the main RDNA 2 thread

Yeah but it's just a hype thread. Nothing said in there is actually worth the pixels.

opethdisciple · 28 Oct 2020 at 19:58

I have a Gsync monitor. Has any one successfully paired an AMD card with their Gsync monitor?

Lose Gysnc... Big issue?

What we wont know for a while is are there going to be any games that will utilise the 16GB vram on the AMD cards.

4K8KW10 · 28 Oct 2020 at 19:59

opethdisciple said:
I have a Gsync monitor. Has any one successfully paired an AMD card with their Gsync monitor?

Lose Gysnc... Big issue?

Sell it..