My head is about to explode choosing a TV

eyetrip · 28 Oct 2020 at 10:58

While my current 55XD8005 is decent for most non-HDR stuff, and happy with HDR gaming on it, I just don't get much pleasure out of it for a lot of HDR viewing content.

Bright content is "OK", but once things get darker, it's just so GREY! IPS of course. I even stopped buying HDR discs.

And I love my horror - so a lot of dark stuff.

I was going to stick with current 55 inch initially, and kept coming back to two XH9005 Sony and 55BX6 LG. Then my partner says "why stick with same size?" - that was enough to plant the seed! argh!

While I still seem to be gravitating to the same two tv's, the 65 incher Sony 9008 is now in the mix.

Viewing distance about 8 feet. While I would love OLED, slightly worried about image retention and burn-in.

I discounted Samsung due to not supporting Dolby Vision, and LG nano cells for all being IPS

Always wanted to try OLED, but can't afford the larger of that. The Sony sounds pretty good though

eyetrip · 28 Oct 2020 at 11:06

I see the LG just dropped another £100 on JL :eek:

eyetrip · 28 Oct 2020 at 11:33

Never mind. That extra £100 off sealed it for me. Ordered. Can't wait to have my first OLED tomorrow!!

eyetrip · 29 Oct 2020 at 16:04

So far so good - it was only after ordering that I read this TV wasn't as bright as previous gen, and I started getting worried.

But from the little bit of content have perused it looks like I'll be OK with the level of brightness.

Nice to see the milkiness of ips blacks gone.

Tonight will be watching passengers off disc, maybe a bbc wildlife episode of something, and probably a hdr film off Disney or netflix

andy_mk3 · 29 Oct 2020 at 16:08

Which one did you order?

my LG 65" C9 is my first OLED, it is certainly stunning.

3t3P · 29 Oct 2020 at 17:55

OLED or bust tbh

eyetrip · 29 Oct 2020 at 18:47

no idea what said:
Which one did you order?

my LG 65" C9 is my first OLED, it is certainly stunning.

The bx6 55 inch. Couldn't stretch to the cx

Psycho Sonny · 29 Oct 2020 at 19:52

eyetrip said:
So far so good - it was only after ordering that I read this TV wasn't as bright as previous gen, and I started getting worried.

But from the little bit of content have perused it looks like I'll be OK with the level of brightness.

Nice to see the milkiness of ips blacks gone.

Tonight will be watching passengers off disc, maybe a bbc wildlife episode of something, and probably a hdr film off Disney or netflix

Brightness doesn't matter as much on oled. The blacks are so much better the whites look brighter than they are.

eyetrip · 30 Oct 2020 at 07:42

Well, I still have a few days (weeks?) getting settings where I want, but I enjoyed my viewing last night.

Some was just random limited bits (planet earth disc, pacific rim disc, revenge of sith opening D+, Discovery and Sabrina on NF)

Pacific Rim looked great, planet erath was just jaw dropping, but the streaming things.... R of Sith battle looked decent, ST Discovery decent, Sabrina while dark scenes no longer make me want to scratch my eyes out are still oddly dark - but seemingly for scenes that shouldn't be THAT dark - do NF just do a bad job with that show? Oh yeah, I also tried a couple of minutes of 6 underground, but that film is a migraine waiting to happen, so didn't spend long. Looked good though.

but was so knackered after couple of days of physical work and stress that I just settled down for couple of films.

Watched Captain Marvel on D+ - An OK experience. Probably not the best thing to try

When moved on to Passengers on disc - Wow. Now that looked beautiful.

SDR/1080p content looks really nice too.

I do have to use motion interpolation set to "cinema" though - otherwise judders distract me terribly, and anything but the cinema preset looks unnatural to me.

Looking forward to the weekend for some horror content and some gaming.

andy_mk3 · 30 Oct 2020 at 10:05

Glad you are enjoying it. The BX isn't really far behind the CX, they're both absolutely stunning with some decent content on there

signs · 30 Oct 2020 at 12:05

£100 OFF and all worries about screen burn vanish

i like your style

andy_mk3 · 30 Oct 2020 at 13:12

signs said:
£100 OFF and all worries about screen burn vanish i like your style

It's not really an issue if you leave the settings on to refresh the screen and don't abuse it with static images for hundreds of hours.

eyetrip · 30 Oct 2020 at 15:03

no idea what said:
It's not really an issue if you leave the settings on to refresh the screen and don't abuse it with static images for hundreds of hours.

Where is this setting? Haven't seen anything i would guess was for that purpose.

While there was a concern with screen burn, it wasn't as high as few years ago when got my last tele.

I am having onw issue though - often when swapping to my Panasonic bluray player, the screen/display is totally garbled/corrupted.

I have to switch away from bluray player a couple of times and it'll comw right.

Not sure it's a problem with tele, br player, or cable, but i certainly never experienced this with previous tv

MrRockliffe · 30 Oct 2020 at 15:14

OLEDs struggle with black crush a little, which is what you see when you said it shouldn’t be that dark.

Thankfully, a good calibrator will sort this out, or if you can find some decent settings you can recover some of the detail

eyetrip · 30 Oct 2020 at 15:43

MrRockliffe said:
OLEDs struggle with black crush a little, which is what you see when you said it shouldn’t be that dark.

Thankfully, a good calibrator will sort this out, or if you can find some decent settings you can recover some of the detail

I have noticed black crush a little, but think i have got my settings mostly compensating for that. The darkness for sabrina in particular is just a dim looking image.

Casino royale bluray, which am sitting through now, has been a good film for adjusting for said cruah.

I'm suddenly wondering, if i adjust 'cinema' setting for a bluray, will the tv apply the same 'cinema' settings to hdr content? Or does it distinguish between the two, so it will save distinct 'cinema' settings bluray and hdr?

If it's one suze fits all, i may be at this settings game for a while.

MrRockliffe · 30 Oct 2020 at 16:45

eyetrip said:
I have noticed black crush a little, but think i have got my settings mostly compensating for that. The darkness for sabrina in particular is just a dim looking image.

Casino royale bluray, which am sitting through now, has been a good film for adjusting for said cruah.

I'm suddenly wondering, if i adjust 'cinema' setting for a bluray, will the tv apply the same 'cinema' settings to hdr content? Or does it distinguish between the two, so it will save distinct 'cinema' settings bluray and hdr?

If it's one suze fits all, i may be at this settings game for a while.

I believe HDR separates the settings from SDR

eyetrip · 30 Oct 2020 at 18:44

MrRockliffe said:
I believe HDR separates the settings from SDR

Cheers - something could have figured while playing but other half settled down for some viewing

Looks like the display corrie issue is more related to the Panasonic player. Different cables, input connectors, bypassing receiver - nothing helped.

And ps4 doesn't do it at all.

Psycho Sonny · 30 Oct 2020 at 19:56

eyetrip said:
Where is this setting? Haven't seen anything i would guess was for that purpose.

While there was a concern with screen burn, it wasn't as high as few years ago when got my last tele.

I am having onw issue though - often when swapping to my Panasonic bluray player, the screen/display is totally garbled/corrupted.

I have to switch away from bluray player a couple of times and it'll comw right.

Not sure it's a problem with tele, br player, or cable, but i certainly never experienced this with previous tv

There should be a setting called screen clear or something which. Cleans the screen every time you switch it off for ten minutes of varied colours or patches being displayed.

It's not needed if you use varied content. I'd only use such an option after a lot of static content. Otherwise you will just burn out the screen prematurely through additional usage.

Screens dim over time so brightness usually needs to be increased to Keep it the same as it was before.

eyetrip · 30 Oct 2020 at 22:29

Psycho Sonny said:
There should be a setting called screen clear or something which. Cleans the screen every time you switch it off for ten minutes of varied colours or patches being displayed.

It's not needed if you use varied content. I'd only use such an option after a lot of static content. Otherwise you will just burn out the screen prematurely through additional usage.

Screens dim over time so brightness usually needs to be increased to Keep it the same as it was before.

My content is very varied, and hardly anything with logos. Won't be used extensively for gaming

HungryHippos · 31 Oct 2020 at 14:36

You don't need to enable anything, the pixel refreshes work automatically when the TV is in standby mode. You should not power if off though, just power button to standby is recommended.

Try disabling the quickstart+ option in the menu somewhere, it might sort some of your switching issues, also update the firmware if not already done.

Otherwise I think a garbled signal is potentially an HDCP handshake fail, might be worth trying a different HDMI lead.