970 vs 3070 price

[chris_h]

So I purchased a new build pc years ago with a msi 970 for £280, and I have considered building a new machine and I have hit a brick wall - the disgusting price of the graphics cards!!

What has happened? my 970 cost £280 when it was released and a 3070 is bouncing around 600! Literally the mind boggles, my last pc build was 1200 pounds, now for the same 'spec' today im looking at 1500.

Exactly what am i gaining paying this price?

 

[Jae-So]

It's definitely just more expensive now, but inflation plays a part.
Also that's not RRP for the 3070s.

 

[nomadd]

So I purchased a new build pc years ago with a msi 970 for £280, and I have considered building a new machine and I have hit a brick wall - the disgusting price of the graphics cards!!

What has happened? my 970 cost £280 when it was released and a 3070 is bouncing around 600! Literally the mind boggles, my last pc build was 1200 pounds, now for the same 'spec' today im looking at 1500.

Exactly what am i gaining paying this price?

Buy a PS5 or XBOX X Series. They are the only "value" left in gaming.

 

[Neutrino101]

That’s the impact of 6 years of inflation increasing the price by ~10% and the fact that all PC components are priced in the US$ which was 1.7 to the £ back in 2014 and only 1.3 today making everything about 20-25% more expensive when bought with the U.K. £ today. Add the above together and it explains most the difference, the rest is the more expensive modern process.

 

[Grim5]

Buy a PS5 or XBOX X Series. They are the only "value" left in gaming.

precisely this

until amd bring out the rx6700 or Nvidia brings out the rtx3060 there is no value option in pc gpu market

 

[Lokken86]

precisely this

until amd bring out the rx6700 or Nvidia brings out the rtx3060 there is no value option in pc gpu market

I bet they are still £400

 

[RoosterC]

So I purchased a new build pc years ago with a msi 970 for £280, and I have considered building a new machine and I have hit a brick wall - the disgusting price of the graphics cards!!

What has happened? my 970 cost £280 when it was released and a 3070 is bouncing around 600! Literally the mind boggles, my last pc build was 1200 pounds, now for the same 'spec' today im looking at 1500.

Exactly what am i gaining paying this price?

I'm in exactly the same boat. Still have my 970 and was ready for a price that was lower than £600. I can wait for AMD to get their cards on the market, and prices to stabilise, so I'll look again in 2021.

 

[chaparral]

my last pc build was 1200 pounds, now for the same 'spec' today im looking at 1500.

Am guessing it be more then that as PSU's, Motherboards, etc now cost a lot more

But think on the bright side at lest mobile phones are cheap these days

 

[ANDREW GREEN]

So I purchased a new build pc years ago with a msi 970 for £280, and I have considered building a new machine and I have hit a brick wall - the disgusting price of the graphics cards!!

What has happened? my 970 cost £280 when it was released and a 3070 is bouncing around 600! Literally the mind boggles, my last pc build was 1200 pounds, now for the same 'spec' today im looking at 1500.

Exactly what am i gaining paying this price?

What resolution are you gaming at? You might not need something as powerful as a 3070. Prices of 5700 series cards should drop in 6 months as new cards come in. That will be the value option. But it's not a great time to buy as you're caught between 2 generations

 

[SDK^]

What has happened?

Do you really need to ask that question !!!
Since 2014 the World and the UK have completely changed - have Brexit and COVID passed you by ?!

 

[2004typer]

Similar boat for me - still on a 1070 that I paid around £340 for, so quite an uplift in price versus last time round I upgraded.

Aware of the increases due to the exchange rate, inflation etc....

But - has the bar for performance been raised since the 970 and 1070? I'm not an expert on the comparative performance but is the 3070 a better performing card in terms of any measurable metrics (i.e. if we compare the performance of a 3070, would it be similar to the 980 or 1080 et al of the former generations - if you know what I'm getting at?) - thus naturally more expensive?

Or is it just a case of the damned Nvidia tax uplifting the prices for no comparitive gain?

 

[The_Arbiter]

If you've enjoyed the 970 till now you should be fine with a mild upgrade rather than going for the brand new. It's not as if you can't play next gen games on old cards. Let others pay those costs

However, buying newest Ryzen CPUs is great value compared to the the previous Intel years. At least we don't have massive inflation there, yet.

 

[LeMson]

Just greed.

 

[crazy8s]

3070 starts at £469.

Though if you intend to build a new system around it for gaming the new consoles are a better buy for that purpose given value.

 

[pandem0nium]

It's become a rich man's game unfortunately. I have fond memories of my HD 7850. A real value and performance champ, with great overclocking potential.

With consoles, the only real bargain is the hardware cost. You're still paying £60 for games and a subscription for playing online.

 

[BUDFORCE]

But - has the bar for performance been raised since the 970 and 1070? I'm not an expert on the comparative performance but is the 3070 a better performing card in terms of any measurable metrics (i.e. if we compare the performance of a 3070, would it be similar to the 980 or 1080 et al of the former generations - if you know what I'm getting at?) - thus naturally more expensive?

I think it's a hard question to answer, given the amount of variables if say a 970 at the time was an equivalent to a 3070.

But I was looking at benchmarks on YouTube last on gamersnexus, and a 3070 puts out about double the FPS of a 1070 on their test bench.

If that helps at all.

 

[EdButler]

GBP/USD was 20% stronger back then.
Inflation also averages around 2.4% a year, so lets say a compounded ~15.5%
So the 970 would have been £388 today. So they've actually only increased by £80. With the sheer amount of PC games available, thats pretty good value imo.

 

[2004typer]

I think it's a hard question to answer, given the amount of variables if say a 970 at the time was an equivalent to a 3070.

But I was looking at benchmarks on YouTube last on gamersnexus, and a 3070 puts out about double the FPS of a 1070 on their test bench.

If that helps at all.

Perhaps we can look at the 2070 Vs the 970 - did this put out double the frame rate (so we are comparing two generational leaps as above) - I'll go and do a search now!

Edit - looks to be about a 65% increase in fps on the user benchmark site

 

[Poneros]

Buy a PS5 or XBOX X Series. They are the only "value" left in gaming.

Don't be fooled so easily by the entry cost. They'll rake you even harder in the long run with game prices and platform lockdown.

The truth is it's never been a better time for gaming PCs. The problem is people pretend like only 4K exists now when a gaming PC that can beast 1080p is very cheap, and will be even cheaper in the coming months.

 

[TNA]

You need to look at dollar for dollar cost. Can’t be looking at pound cost as our currency is worth less now.

970 was indeed good value. Prices have gone up for sure, but not as bad as it seems when you take currency and inflation into account.

My Radeon HD 4870 cost around £200 and was one of the if not the best gpu money could buy at the time. But the pound was much stronger back then. Also die sizes were smaller too. That card was only 256mm2.

Not defending the prices by the way, even with what I said above they are still on the expensive side IMO.