*** NVIDIA GEFORCE RTX 3080 SERIES STOCK SITUATION - NO COMPETITOR DISCUSSION ***

[Kesomir]

Will you be looking somewhere else or gonfor AMD. This is crazy !

My preference is for the 3080 but if I can't get one, but can land a 6800xt I'm happy enough to switch to that.

I just dont see myself getting one any time soon from the queue which doesn't appear to have moved other than cancellations in all the weeks I've been in it.

My refund has been processed by OC already so no complaints there. Took less than 4 hours for them to action it.

 

[Mr G]

Strix OC 3070 mate. please tell me its a good sign?

I wish I could buddy, I've stayed out of this pre-order fiascos. You may be good though, did debate on the GameRock but OC being vague on stock.

 

[russler]

Almost toying with the possibility of a 3090 at this point as even on the fence reviewers have started to note about amds v ram option, thought just for a laugh lets see what overclockers are offering surprise surprise the zotac card is 1699 the same price and the far better strix oc and master extreme, anything to do with the massive stock inbound post earlier perhaps..... Overclockers are laughable if they hadnt got enough flak about shady goings on already they leave there selfs open for more.

 

[Flenix]

In the most dramatic update of the century, I am still 3 in queue for Asus TUF non-OC.

At least we know that positions 1 and 2, whoever they are, probably aren't scalpers and didn't quit out

 

[Mobias]

The story I read said passenger aircraft used to carry quite a bit of cargo, and with the rona, these have stopped flying. Some countries with sensible government have made sure national carriers converted passenger aircraft over to cargo, and carried on flying, however our hopeless bunch of incompetents pay more to ground the aircraft than to get them flying.

The big upcoming issues were black Friday, Christmas, New year sales and then Chinese New Year.

Thats not true. My brother is a 787 captain for Virgin and all the seats have been taken out of the 787's and the UK government gave Virgin a large air haulage contract to keep them going. My brother is flying once a week to Hong Kong bringing tons of freight back, that may or may not include graphics cards.

On top of that that a new long distance air haulage company is just about to start up to take the sheer volume of goods thats expected to be needed shipped from the far East after the UK leaves the EU at the end of the year.

 

[Werewolf]

Earlier this week I bought a router from China direct (not mentioning the vendor) but their tracking data shows it was shipped to the airport and on the plane just a few hours later. Within 2 days after that it had left China en route to the next stop. This is yet another reason why I'm not buying the Apple bought all the slots story. I know the vendors are an enormous company but so far as I'm aware they don't have any influence over freight for goods sold.

• 2020.10.29 21:36 (GMT-7): Departed country of origin
• 2020.10.27 02:12 (GMT-7): Shipment left country of origin warehouse
• 2020.10.27 02:12 (GMT-7): Shipment accepted by airline

• 2020.10.26 22:45 (GMT-7): Shipment at country of origin warehouse
• 2020.10.26 14:21 (GMT-7): Shipment dispatched

I'm not employed by OCUK but from my understanding there is "air freight" and there is "air freight".

Your router was probably shipped by China mail or similar, which is fine for something relatively low value as a single item where time wasn't really an issue, I've had stuff sent at the same time where one item arrived in 5 days, and another took over a month.

But the likes of Apple and Videocard manufacturers will not be using regular air freight that is intended for low volume, low value, low cost shipping, they will be using companies who can offer a far better guarantee of security for the items at every step of the way (a pallet of Iphones for example might be worth half a million or more, whilst a pallet of general mail might only be worth a few grand).

Apple are big enough (with high enough margins), and ship enough that they can basically hire entire aircraft at a time, and IIRC they've done exactly that multiple times in the past*, the likes of a video card manufacturer will likely be trying to get space for a couple of pallets at a more reasonable cost because the margins on the video card is likely smaller.
Guess which one the the freight shipping companies will give preference to.

Basically you've got several versions of "air freight" depending on what you're sending and how much.
At the low end you've got what is basically "economy airmail", where you are sending relatively low value stuff that is put on whatever aircraft has the space.
At the mid end you've got the likes of FedEx/UPS/DHL who will charge a premium for faster and more secure service.
Then you've got the specialist/bulk air shipping services where you are booking by the pallet or airfreight container, if not full aircraft. This is the service you probably want to use if you're shipping hundreds of items that are worth £500-1000+ each to the same warehouse/distributor and iirc you package them in such a way the shipping company only handles one, larger item), but where how much the shipping per unit is important as you save a lot due to there only being one manifest, one customers declaration, one customs inspection fee etc for all your items rather than one per item.

My guess is that Apple have booked up entire aircraft, whilst the videocard companies are trying to get a few pallet loads at a time on one of those sort of aircraft.

I guess the the video card manufacturers could ship the cards individually by DHL/UPS from China, but the cost to ship each card would probably be far higher, and you'd likely see far more lost or damaged in the process than when they're bulk shipped together on a pallet.


*I have vague memories of them basically causing a major issue with high value freight shipping around 10 years ago, when something happened to cause a delay in manufacturing or something, and they ended up shipping by Air rather than by boat (and I think the same happened with Microsoft or Sony with consoles).

 

[AmirMekkaoui]

Wait, you guys are 80th in the queue?

I ordered mine a month ago, an MSI GeForce RTX 3080 ... the first email I recieved I was 1424 in the queue ... a month later i'm at 1168.

Realistically, i'm not gonna get mine for a longgggggg while ; so is there even any point in staying in the queue?

 

[RobWaudby]

Wait, you guys are 80th in the queue?

I ordered mine a month ago, an MSI GeForce RTX 3080 ... the first email I recieved I was 1424 in the queue ... a month later i'm at 1168.

Realistically, i'm not gonna get mine for a longgggggg while ; so is there even any point in staying in the queue?

I'm position 20. Ordered 17th September. Hoping this delivery turns up any day to OC.

 

[woppy101]

I'm not employed by OCUK but from my understanding there is "air freight" and there is "air freight".

Your router was probably shipped by China mail or similar, which is fine for something relatively low value as a single item where time wasn't really an issue, I've had stuff sent at the same time where one item arrived in 5 days, and another took over a month.

But the likes of Apple and Videocard manufacturers will not be using regular air freight that is intended for low volume, low value, low cost shipping, they will be using companies who can offer a far better guarantee of security for the items at every step of the way (a pallet of Iphones for example might be worth half a million or more, whilst a pallet of general mail might only be worth a few grand).

Apple are big enough (with high enough margins), and ship enough that they can basically hire entire aircraft at a time, and IIRC they've done exactly that multiple times in the past*, the likes of a video card manufacturer will likely be trying to get space for a couple of pallets at a more reasonable cost because the margins on the video card is likely smaller.
Guess which one the the freight shipping companies will give preference to.

Basically you've got several versions of "air freight" depending on what you're sending and how much.
At the low end you've got what is basically "economy airmail", where you are sending relatively low value stuff that is put on whatever aircraft has the space.
At the mid end you've got the likes of FedEx/UPS/DHL who will charge a premium for faster and more secure service.
Then you've got the specialist/bulk air shipping services where you are booking by the pallet or airfreight container, if not full aircraft. This is the service you probably want to use if you're shipping hundreds of items that are worth £500-1000+ each to the same warehouse/distributor and iirc you package them in such a way the shipping company only handles one, larger item), but where how much the shipping per unit is important as you save a lot due to there only being one manifest, one customers declaration, one customs inspection fee etc for all your items rather than one per item.

My guess is that Apple have booked up entire aircraft, whilst the videocard companies are trying to get a few pallet loads at a time on one of those sort of aircraft.

I guess the the video card manufacturers could ship the cards individually by DHL/UPS from China, but the cost to ship each card would probably be far higher, and you'd likely see far more lost or damaged in the process than when they're bulk shipped together on a pallet.


*I have vague memories of them basically causing a major issue with high value freight shipping around 10 years ago, when something happened to cause a delay in manufacturing or something, and they ended up shipping by Air rather than by boat (and I think the same happened with Microsoft or Sony with consoles).

Most of the new video cards will also be on normal passenger aircraft, a pilot friend of mine told me a few years ago that there is alway a portion of the aircraft reserved for air freight, so they will also be struggling to get cards out due to the massive reduction in scheduled flights because of covid

 

[LordOfBeyond]

My preference is for the 3080 but if I can't get one, but can land a 6800xt I'm happy enough to switch to that.

I just dont see myself getting one any time soon from the queue which doesn't appear to have moved other than cancellations in all the weeks I've been in it.

My refund has been processed by OC already so no complaints there. Took less than 4 hours for them to action it.

Good to know. Thanks. 4 hours for cancellation money to come in. I am also in non OC TUF non moving queue. I do not think that I will get my card this year. I need to hunt for rtx 3080, maybe I will get lucky. I think it is unlikely that OC UK will.sent me.one. lol.

 

[nicklog]

Dont think the situation with the 3070s is as bad, cards expected next week

Oh God, I hope you are right

 

[Zeed]

omg TUF is new STRIX

lol

 

[Just-Dave]

omg TUF is new STRIX

lol

Just seen that what a rip off lol

 

[XeNoNF50]

Lol I just managed to get a Strix OC order in for my sister from the place I managed to get my TUF OC - arriving to me on 17-18th November. Only £836.

 

[Flake87]

I'm not employed by OCUK but from my understanding there is "air freight" and there is "air freight".

Your router was probably shipped by China mail or similar, which is fine for something relatively low value as a single item where time wasn't really an issue, I've had stuff sent at the same time where one item arrived in 5 days, and another took over a month.

But the likes of Apple and Videocard manufacturers will not be using regular air freight that is intended for low volume, low value, low cost shipping, they will be using companies who can offer a far better guarantee of security for the items at every step of the way (a pallet of Iphones for example might be worth half a million or more, whilst a pallet of general mail might only be worth a few grand).

Apple are big enough (with high enough margins), and ship enough that they can basically hire entire aircraft at a time, and IIRC they've done exactly that multiple times in the past*, the likes of a video card manufacturer will likely be trying to get space for a couple of pallets at a more reasonable cost because the margins on the video card is likely smaller.
Guess which one the the freight shipping companies will give preference to.

Basically you've got several versions of "air freight" depending on what you're sending and how much.
At the low end you've got what is basically "economy airmail", where you are sending relatively low value stuff that is put on whatever aircraft has the space.
At the mid end you've got the likes of FedEx/UPS/DHL who will charge a premium for faster and more secure service.
Then you've got the specialist/bulk air shipping services where you are booking by the pallet or airfreight container, if not full aircraft. This is the service you probably want to use if you're shipping hundreds of items that are worth £500-1000+ each to the same warehouse/distributor and iirc you package them in such a way the shipping company only handles one, larger item), but where how much the shipping per unit is important as you save a lot due to there only being one manifest, one customers declaration, one customs inspection fee etc for all your items rather than one per item.

My guess is that Apple have booked up entire aircraft, whilst the videocard companies are trying to get a few pallet loads at a time on one of those sort of aircraft.

I guess the the video card manufacturers could ship the cards individually by DHL/UPS from China, but the cost to ship each card would probably be far higher, and you'd likely see far more lost or damaged in the process than when they're bulk shipped together on a pallet.


*I have vague memories of them basically causing a major issue with high value freight shipping around 10 years ago, when something happened to cause a delay in manufacturing or something, and they ended up shipping by Air rather than by boat (and I think the same happened with Microsoft or Sony with consoles).

Regardless of that it shouldn't take 14 days plus to get a consignment which is portside, shipped

 

[Illuminist]

I'm not employed by OCUK but from my understanding there is "air freight" and there is "air freight".

Your router was probably shipped by China mail or similar, which is fine for something relatively low value as a single item where time wasn't really an issue, I've had stuff sent at the same time where one item arrived in 5 days, and another took over a month.

But the likes of Apple and Videocard manufacturers will not be using regular air freight that is intended for low volume, low value, low cost shipping, they will be using companies who can offer a far better guarantee of security for the items at every step of the way (a pallet of Iphones for example might be worth half a million or more, whilst a pallet of general mail might only be worth a few grand).

Apple are big enough (with high enough margins), and ship enough that they can basically hire entire aircraft at a time, and IIRC they've done exactly that multiple times in the past*, the likes of a video card manufacturer will likely be trying to get space for a couple of pallets at a more reasonable cost because the margins on the video card is likely smaller.
Guess which one the the freight shipping companies will give preference to.

Basically you've got several versions of "air freight" depending on what you're sending and how much.
At the low end you've got what is basically "economy airmail", where you are sending relatively low value stuff that is put on whatever aircraft has the space.
At the mid end you've got the likes of FedEx/UPS/DHL who will charge a premium for faster and more secure service.
Then you've got the specialist/bulk air shipping services where you are booking by the pallet or airfreight container, if not full aircraft. This is the service you probably want to use if you're shipping hundreds of items that are worth £500-1000+ each to the same warehouse/distributor and iirc you package them in such a way the shipping company only handles one, larger item), but where how much the shipping per unit is important as you save a lot due to there only being one manifest, one customers declaration, one customs inspection fee etc for all your items rather than one per item.

My guess is that Apple have booked up entire aircraft, whilst the videocard companies are trying to get a few pallet loads at a time on one of those sort of aircraft.

I guess the the video card manufacturers could ship the cards individually by DHL/UPS from China, but the cost to ship each card would probably be far higher, and you'd likely see far more lost or damaged in the process than when they're bulk shipped together on a pallet.


*I have vague memories of them basically causing a major issue with high value freight shipping around 10 years ago, when something happened to cause a delay in manufacturing or something, and they ended up shipping by Air rather than by boat (and I think the same happened with Microsoft or Sony with consoles).

The gpu makers should all chip in together for a plane

 

[larsbaby]

Today's update.
I'm one of the sad tw*ts with a 3080 TUF (non OC) on order.
02/10 - 943
14/10 - 856
23/10 - 803
30/10 - 731

I can't see me moving too much up the list now not until the 6800/6800xt arrive. I might wait until the 6900xt and grab one of those if possible.

 

[Bazz21uk]

Most of the new video cards will also be on normal passenger aircraft, a pilot friend of mine told me a few years ago that there is alway a portion of the aircraft reserved for air freight, so they will also be struggling to get cards out due to the massive reduction in scheduled flights because of covid

I don’t buy any of that tbh. All these cards keep appearing on other uk and eu sites. If one manufacturer was struggling surely they all would. A few mins ago inno 3080s were on an eu competitor. They only showed 2 in stock but it’s fair to assume they also had pre orders to fill. Right now any company that can reduce losses from commercial flights will be scrambling to take whatever freight they can. Atm there’s no shortage of stuff coming from that part of the world to us. I feel like OC just aren’t getting the love they expected from distributors and manufacturers right now

 

[chriso132]

Everything I’ve seen recently regarding the NON OC TUF, is that retailers are telling customers they won’t get it still 2021 by the time chips normalise.
Seen a company in France also sending oc models to the non oc buyers.
Doesn’t look good at all !
Will need to try and get an FE now I reckon.

 

[Simon Prater]

you lot got update email today??
i have not got one

Nope. got one wednesday. Only 100 days to go.