Worth upgrading from 3600 to 5600x?

Smiffy-UK · 31 Oct 2020 at 22:26

Hey, I've just spent a little time searching for the answer and I can't find any threads, is it going to be worth upgrading from a 3600 to a 5600x or 5800x? Will the 5600x be a single CCX like the 3300x? I have managed to find from my search that the 5800x will be a single CCX.

Lokken86 · 1 Nov 2020 at 00:40

Assuming for gaming purposes? What graphics card have you got and are you intending on upgrading it?

Joxeon · 1 Nov 2020 at 00:46

Probably not unless you already have a RTX 2080ti/30 series GPU and play at 1440P or lower.

If you don't already have one of the above GPUs then putting the money towards a 30 series or big navi card will give you the most power for gaming unless of course you have the cash laying around for both.

Smiffy-UK · 1 Nov 2020 at 01:01

Lokken86 said:
Assuming for gaming purposes? What graphics card have you got and are you intending on upgrading it?

Yeah gaming and lots of code compiling, that's about it

Joxeon said:
Probably not unless you already have a RTX 2080ti/30 series GPU and play at 1440P or lower.

If you don't already have one of the above GPUs then putting the money towards a 30 series or big navi card will give you the most power for gaming unless of course you have the cash laying around for both.

I will be looking towards the 6800 or the 6800xt but I'll probably wait for those reviews before picking one. Currently, I have a PowerColor 5700xt twin fan and my monitor is 1440p 165Hz.

rare · 1 Nov 2020 at 01:12

No one knows yet, but you could be looking at between a 10-20% improvement depending on the scenario. My opinion is, if you are going to upgrade - go for an 8 core. It will give you some future proofing.

CuriousTomCat · 1 Nov 2020 at 07:15

The reviews aren't out yet. We're happy to speculate and discuss, but nothing will be certain until the reviews are out and we've seen the benchmarks.

The IPC has improved by 19% plus a few more % for increased clockspeed. We'll know more next week.

As to whether an upgrade is 'worth it', that's always going to be debatable because the worth of something is an opinion which differs from person to person. Some think it's worth upgrading for 19%, while others (like me) prefer a bigger increase.

Davidus29 · 1 Nov 2020 at 09:31

It's gonna be a huge improve in gaming performance but everything depends what GPU do you have currently?

Smiffy-UK · 1 Nov 2020 at 09:34

Davidus29 said:
It's gonna be a huge improve in gaming performance but everything depends what GPU do you have currently?

Ryzen R5 3600 as the title says

SnR3 · 1 Nov 2020 at 09:54

He asked what GPU u have and not CPU

RBImGuy · 1 Nov 2020 at 10:00

Smiffy-UK said:
Hey, I've just spent a little time searching for the answer and I can't find any threads, is it going to be worth upgrading from a 3600 to a 5600x or 5800x? Will the 5600x be a single CCX like the 3300x? I have managed to find from my search that the 5800x will be a single CCX.

Yes.
The 5600x crushes everything.

https://www.thetechnoburst.com/ryzen-5-5600x-benchmark-using-cpu-z-software/

Smiffy-UK · 1 Nov 2020 at 10:21

SnR3 said:
He asked what GPU u have and not CPU

Ah well my mistake, was before I had woken up.

Smiffy-UK said:
Currently, I have a PowerColor 5700xt twin fan and my monitor is 1440p 165Hz.

Here ya go. Even know its also there above

RBImGuy said:
Yes.
The 5600x crushes everything.

https://www.thetechnoburst.com/ryzen-5-5600x-benchmark-using-cpu-z-software/

Awesome thanks for that article.

Joxeon · 1 Nov 2020 at 10:33

Davidus29 said:
It's gonna be a huge improve in gaming performance but everything depends what GPU do you have currently?

I'm supprised people think changing a CPU when playing at 1440P will be a huge improvement because as it stands the 3600 is only 4% behind a 10900K at that resolution with an RTX 3080 and with the higher clocked 5900X only around 5% faster than this at 1080P which would translate to just a couple of % at 1440P so at best you would be looking at a +6% improvement over with a 3600 with a 5600X at 1440P although if paired with an AMD GPU the gains could end up being more with SAM enabled but until it's been independently tested we won't have the full picture.

Darujhistan · 3 Nov 2020 at 13:17

Better off spending money upgrading your GPU than the CPU for pretty minimal gains. In any case you are good at 1440p with what you have right now.

MegaPinches · 3 Nov 2020 at 13:19

I have 3600 was dead set on 5800x until I saw price but no way would consider upgrading to 5600x even if it is a beast which it is, doesn't seem worth it to hop from 6 core to 6 core in my mind, maybe that's OCD. Going to pump my funds onto a 6800xt instead.

CuriousTomCat · 3 Nov 2020 at 13:22

None of us actually have a 5600X. Surely it would make sense to wait for reviews?

Yes we can debate and guess but a serious buying decision requires testing.

Darujhistan · 3 Nov 2020 at 13:30

MegaPinches said:
I have 3600 was dead set on 5800x until I saw price but no way would consider upgrading to 5600x even if it is a beast which it is, doesn't seem worth it to hop from 6 core to 6 core in my mind, maybe that's OCD. Going to pump my funds onto a 6800xt instead.

Yeah, I have a 2600 which I know is fine, but I wouldn't buy another 6 core CPU and certainly not for nearly 3x what I paid for the one I already have. I wouldn't buy another 8GB VRAM GPU either, and DEFINITELY not for 2.5x what I paid for the one I have. If I'm upgrading I want a huge performance uplift from what I have.

los · 3 Nov 2020 at 19:48

Cinebench R20 3600 was 3437 and 5600x went up to 4104.
Single threaded 3600 was 480 and 5600x went up to 598.
Just XMP enabled for ram at 3200.
So if you think that's worth an upgrade go for it, if not, then go higher or keep the 3600.

CAT-THE-FIFTH · 3 Nov 2020 at 19:58

I suspect it will if you run certain older games,which show a noticeable improvement on a current generation Core i5(Fallout 4,etc). This is where I think the biggest improvement will be in - games based on older engines,where Zen2 is held back by latency.

Darujhistan said:
Yeah, I have a 2600 which I know is fine, but I wouldn't buy another 6 core CPU and certainly not for nearly 3x what I paid for the one I already have. I wouldn't buy another 8GB VRAM GPU either, and DEFINITELY not for 2.5x what I paid for the one I have. If I'm upgrading I want a huge performance uplift from what I have.

I paid £137 for my Ryzen 5 2600 two years ago,and the Ryzen 5 5600X is around double that. It would be a decent upgrade for me,but I think I might look for a Ryzen 7 3700X deal,unless we have a Ryzen 5 5600 non-X out this year at around £200.

nomadd · 3 Nov 2020 at 21:24

MegaPinches said:
I have 3600 was dead set on 5800x until I saw price but no way would consider upgrading to 5600x even if it is a beast which it is, doesn't seem worth it to hop from 6 core to 6 core in my mind, maybe that's OCD. Going to pump my funds onto a 6800xt instead.

This^

Joxeon · 3 Nov 2020 at 22:06

MegaPinches said:
I have 3600 was dead set on 5800x until I saw price but no way would consider upgrading to 5600x even if it is a beast which it is, doesn't seem worth it to hop from 6 core to 6 core in my mind, maybe that's OCD. Going to pump my funds onto a 6800xt instead.

Same here, I have a 3600 and was planning to get an 8 core zen 3 chip but I was expecting it to be closer in price to a 5600X and I'm certainly not spending 300 quid on a 6 core so I'll wait and see if the price comes down or new SKUs are released otherwise I will probably end up getting a 5900X as that is currently the only Zen 3 chip that offers VFM.