Quit smoking. Vape good or bad.

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Do you get your gum on perscription or pay for it? What sort do you get and where is best to get it from? I've tried it before and it works, no "hit" from an inhale, but no desire to smoke either which was great. Finding it hard to give up vaping now :/
I use Nicorette fruit fusion 4mg off the rainforest, £10 a box of 105 pieces when it's on offer and I find it much tastier than Nicotinell fruit. 4mg costs the same as 2mg, I mean you can just break the gum in half so always go 4mg. For the first month I was missing the vape but ever since I don't think about it and my lung pain has all but gone.
 
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I use Nicorette fruit fusion 4mg off the rainforest, £10 a box of 105 pieces when it's on offer and I find it much tastier than Nicotinell fruit. 4mg costs the same as 2mg, I mean you can just break the gum in half so always go 4mg. For the first month I was missing the vape but ever since I don't think about it and my lung pain has all but gone.

gentleman, thanks
 
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I smoked for years with cigarettes and the Mary Jane and would wake up and have to spend 5 mins every morning coughing up nasty stuff to before I could even breath properly but quit that and turned to vaping 4 years ago and feel so much better for it since I can now breath without wheezing and generally feel a lot healthier.
 
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Quit ciggies after seeing my x-rays.
Stayed clear for a couple of years then graduated (!) to pipe or cigarillos. Switched between them when the weekly cost hit £5. Wife eventually sent me to a hypno-shrink who specialised in ridding clients of their addictive habits.
£45 well spent- haven't smoked for 15+years. Saved loads, which I spent more wisely on electronicals. Personal opinion- vape fluids don't seem to have any ingredient listings. How are the unknown-chemical safety assessments made?
 
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Quit ciggies after seeing my x-rays.
Stayed clear for a couple of years then graduated (!) to pipe or cigarillos. Switched between them when the weekly cost hit £5. Wife eventually sent me to a hypno-shrink who specialised in ridding clients of their addictive habits.
£45 well spent- haven't smoked for 15+years. Saved loads, which I spent more wisely on electronicals. Personal opinion- vape fluids don't seem to have any ingredient listings. How are the unknown-chemical safety assessments made?

The base ingredients (propylene glycol and glycerine) are well-known, well-tested, and are about as benign as they could be. They are broken down and disposed of without issue by the body's natural systems.
The only grey area is the flavourings. Obviously, they need to be water-soluble, which rules out essential oils and the like.
It's been about 15 years so far, and no real reports of problems.
I can't vape orange flavours as they make me a bit wheezy, but that's all I've encountered. I just don't use orange flavours!

Research into various flavourings would be welcomed.
Still got to be better than cigarette smoke...
 
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The base ingredients (propylene glycol and glycerine) are well-known, well-tested, and are about as benign as they could be. They are broken down and disposed of without issue by the body's natural systems.
The only grey area is the flavourings. Obviously, they need to be water-soluble, which rules out essential oils and the like.
It's been about 15 years so far, and no real reports of problems.
I can't vape orange flavours as they make me a bit wheezy, but that's all I've encountered. I just don't use orange flavours!

Research into various flavourings would be welcomed.
Still got to be better than cigarette smoke...

I've asked for non-flavoured juice in vape shops a few times and they looked at me as if I was mad.
 
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^^ The base ingredients (propylene glycol and glycerine) constitute the gaseous fluid for which our lungs evolved? :D.
Could well be better than tobacco smoke ;).
 
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I treated myself to a proper smoke on New Year's Eve - no regrets, back on the vape since then though!

Moving from the last of the 18mg cartridges down to 12mg at the mo to see how I go, should be easier to give up the vape than it was stopping smoking rollups I think...
 
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Actually, vaping can be socially useful. If you can smell the flavour of a vaper's vape, and if the vaper also has covid 19, you can rest assured that you're also breathing in the virus as well. Early warning for a test. :D
 
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I've asked for non-flavoured juice in vape shops a few times and they looked at me as if I was mad.

It is ridiculously easy to make your own especially without flavouring and costs very little, you won't even need scales let me know if you want to know more, I assure you it'll save you a fair bit of money and it really is easy
 
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The base ingredients (propylene glycol and glycerine) are well-known, well-tested, and are about as benign as they could be. They are broken down and disposed of without issue by the body's natural systems.
The only grey area is the flavourings. Obviously, they need to be water-soluble, which rules out essential oils and the like.
It's been about 15 years so far, and no real reports of problems.
I can't vape orange flavours as they make me a bit wheezy, but that's all I've encountered. I just don't use orange flavours!

Research into various flavourings would be welcomed.
Still got to be better than cigarette smoke...

Have a look at FlavourArt, they only use food grade ingredients apparently I've been using them for a few years now and on the occasion I've bought elsewhere you can really tell the difference with the sweetener that's added, coils last for weeks not days too
 
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I smoked for a few years in my early to mid 20's. Classic 'never though I'd get hooked'. In reality a few weeks in I knew I already was.

Read Allen Carr book probably 10 times to no avail. Took up vaping. Managed to stop now for over 3 years. Quite proud of myself.

I got tired of the tedious maintenance required for vaping. I was probably doing it wrong but within a day of using a new coil it started to taste crappy, meaning swapping out expensive coils. The liquid was increasingly expensive and I was always tempted to try new flavours.

The main problem was though that I became even more dependent on it than smoking and I hated that. It was worse in many ways? Phone call? Vape. Put my coat on? Vape. Go to bed? Vape, Wake up? Vape. Smoking had a few inbuilt things that made me do it less. My capacity to smoke was physically limited, as well as the fear of doing it too much, and I preferred to go outside because of the smell. With vaping I could do it at every given moment at home and the fear was somewhat reduced. I even started to do it covertly at work. Even in places like airports. My biggest moment of shame was setting the smoke alarm off at work vaping in the toilet (which I later learned sense particulate as well as smoke), the fire brigade came! Everyone thought I had just done a **** and sprayed something to cover it up. I had to just suck it up and go with the story. The shame! I had forgotten about this until I read this thread! I didn't learn my lesson and did it again at another job, the fire alarm went off again. I will never know if it was me the second time but it sure did get my heart rate up.

Despite feeling better with vaping thank I ever did smoking; I still had this niggling feeling that it wasn't good for me. My heartrate was constantly rapid due to over-vaping. I know a lot of this is entirely my fault and many people feel absolutely fine and don't do all the ridiculous stuff I did, a lot of that is just my personality. I'd still feel quite tight chested (presumably because I vaped so much.)

I eventually got so tired of being so pathetically dependent on something that I read a few books, including Allen Car and Tamir Turgul. I don't think they did anything magical though, just this time, the ways in which I eventually caved in and smoked again, I managed to persist and now I just don't think about it anymore. I just knew if I didn't I would never do it and I was in for a lifetime of this ********. Thankfully I did and I'm so proud of being free.
 
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Yep- can you let me know how I do that?

Buy nicotine and PG - VG from Dark Star

Buy 60mm bottles from ibottles

Buy a large bottle from ibottles

Decant both PG and VG into the large bottle, now you have the PG VG mix (assuming you vape 50/50)

Take a 60ml bottle and add nicotine, one shot = 3mg so 2 X nic shots = 6mg for example

Top up to the neck of the 60ml bottle with PG VG mix, you now have 60ml of 6mg 50/50 flavourless vape juice
 
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Buy nicotine and PG - VG from Dark Star

Buy 60mm bottles from ibottles

Buy a large bottle from ibottles

Decant both PG and VG into the large bottle, now you have the PG VG mix (assuming you vape 50/50)

Take a 60ml bottle and add nicotine, one shot = 3mg so 2 X nic shots = 6mg for example

Top up to the neck of the 60ml bottle with PG VG mix, you now have 60ml of 6mg 50/50 flavourless vape juice

Yay! I'll give that a go- and thank you!
 
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