PC Upgrade CPU, GPU?

Phill90 · 17 Nov 2020 at 22:26

Hi, i've been out of the loop for a couple of years regarding PC stuff. I'm also not super knowledgeable in this area - i built my current PC in 2017/18.

I'm looking at upgrading some parts of my PC but im unsure where i should start.

As a gamer i want the machine to run some of the upcoming games at as high a level as possible without frame drops etc so that's what im geared towards - i can run games like AC:Valhalla on a high/very high setting, but have had some slight issues with frame drops here and there; and next up is Cyberpunk2077, need i say more

Current Spec:

CPU - AMD Ryzen 7 1800X

GPU - Geforce GTX Titan 1070Ti

Motherboard - Asus ROG Crosshair VI Hero AMD X370

Ram - Corsair Vengeance LPX 16GB (2x8GB) DDR4

Power Supply - Corsair RM Series RM750X '80+ Gold' 750W

Cooling - NZXT Kraken X52 AIO Water Cooling

Driver - 500GB Samsung Evo 850 SSD

Would i be correct in assuming an upgrade to a new CPU would be a good start? If so what is now considered a decent upgrade from what i have.

I wanted to get an RTX gpu as well, but i can hold fire on that for the moment.

Any advice would be much appreciated

Thanks

Joxeon · 17 Nov 2020 at 22:32

Ideally you would want a new CPU and GPU but which to get depends on what resolution and refresh rate your going to be gaming at and what sort of budget you have?.

Phill90 · 17 Nov 2020 at 22:41

I'm using a 144hz 1920x1080p monitor. I'm not fussed about "4k" for the time being.

Budget wise I have a little but to play with, but not quite enough to buy all the big boy toys ha.

I'm generally happy to spend a touch more if it gives me a little more longevity out of the parts I'm getting.

mickyflinn · 17 Nov 2020 at 23:07

Your gonna need a stroger gpu if you wanna play a.c. vanilla at 1080p high detail.

Take a look at benchmarks.

https://www.notebookcheck.net/Assassin-s-Creed-Valhalla-Laptop-and-Desktop-Benchmarks.504129.0.html

Phill90 · 17 Nov 2020 at 23:16

mickyflinn said:
Your gonna need a stroger gpu if you wanna play a.c. vanilla at 1080p high detail.

Take a look at benchmarks.

https://www.notebookcheck.net/Assassin-s-Creed-Valhalla-Laptop-and-Desktop-Benchmarks.504129.0.html

Thanks for the link, very handy. i was looking at getting the RTX3080 at some point. it would be nice to see the game the way its intended.

dfour · 17 Nov 2020 at 23:56

The best cpu you can put on that board is a 3*** series. There is no support of the x370 for the new 5*** series. A 3700x would still be a good upgrade to your old 1800x.

Going by the above chart a 3070 or 6800/xt would get about 100 frames in high on AC Valhalla.

Drumroll · 17 Nov 2020 at 23:59

GPU. Your CPU still a very capable one. The 5600x is tempting, but expensive, if the only focus is gaming. Similar money can get a 3900x second hand.

dfour · 18 Nov 2020 at 00:15

MrPotato said:
GPU. Your CPU still a very capable one. The 5600x is tempting, but expensive, if the only focus is gaming. Similar money can get a 3900x second hand.

Cant run a 5600x in a x370 board.

Jay85 · 18 Nov 2020 at 00:17

You'll usually get much better gains through a gpu upgrade despite the bottlenecks that you might get from it. I would always take the gpu upgrade route before considering a cpu upgrade.

Drumroll · 18 Nov 2020 at 00:27

dfour said:
Cant run a 5600x in a x370 board.

Some custom BIOS may do the trick, but I personally wouldn't bother.
As I said, despite using a X570, O don't see the point of letting my 3900x go for the sake of the 5000 series. There's gains, sure, but I game at 1440. And still waiting for the day my CPU holds my GPU back, specially caping frames.
I would suggest GPU first, 99% of the time, and after, maybe, CPU, unless using an entry-level CPU, which the 1800 isn't.

Phill90 · 18 Nov 2020 at 13:16

dfour said:
Cant run a 5600x in a x370 board.

yeh this is what i wanted to check, i didnt want to fork out the money for a CPU that doesn't work on my current board - so that is definitely helpful to know. Thanks

I'll may look at going GPU first after what you've all recommended - though i was worried about the potential for bottlenecking which is why i was unsure what would be a better upgrade to go with first, i may just bite the bullet and upgrade both my GPU and CPU

Phill90 · 18 Nov 2020 at 13:23

So, i'm looking at either a 3070 or 80 GPU and any of the AMD 3*** series CPUs as my route for upgrades. All things considered is there anything else i should look out for - i cant be having my machine explode on me

ps - is there a preference for any of the third party versions of the GPUs i should avoid or are they all essentially the same. My 1070ti is a founders edition so it's the barebones basic and im clueless as to what id gain/lose with the other versions like a Zotac or ASUS 3080???

iamtheoneneo · 18 Nov 2020 at 15:27

at this point any 3070 is fine. Were not in the right timeline to be picky about brand given the backlog of 3xxx series cards until 2021.
I recently upgraded from a 1070 to a 3070 and the difference is ridiculous, so its well worth it.