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AMD 6800 & 6800 XT MBA LAUNCH AT 2PM TODAY - EXTREMELY LIMITED STOCK!
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Soldato
Absolute madness. It's never been worse.
Hugely over inflated hardware pricing, disgusting price gouging, zero stock anywhere, boring monitors and very average games all year round.
Now has never been a better time to chin PC gaming off, Series X and PS5 are to good in comparison to how expensive PC Hardware and gaming on that platform has become.
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Friend of mine who imports...
''Nearing impossible to get shipments out of China now. Charging £5000 a container (norm is £1800). If you are thinking of buying something, do it on Black Friday… as prices will be going up across the board until well after the summer months.''
''It’s not just the cost it’s that they are flat out refusing to ship to the Uk due to how long it takes to get the container back to China.''
Agree with GhostDog, It could be a while before cost come down.
''Nearing impossible to get shipments out of China now. Charging £5000 a container (norm is £1800). If you are thinking of buying something, do it on Black Friday… as prices will be going up across the board until well after the summer months.''
''It’s not just the cost it’s that they are flat out refusing to ship to the Uk due to how long it takes to get the container back to China.''
Agree with GhostDog, It could be a while before cost come down.
Soldato
A shipping container could easily contain 10,000 pieces of a GPU. That works out to only an extra 32p per unit. Why is this a problem?
Soldato
heard about the shipping container thing from a MTB industry importer friend - its gone nuts so all 2021 MTB purchases are going to go up in cost by a large chunk
Soldato
How much does the card cost to make, parts, assembly, packaging, shipping?
Only then can you answer your question.
Hint, its less than AMD and Nvidia make their FE designs for. The rest is margin, which is discretionary.
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Unless I see a 3080 or 6800xt pop up around 700 quid for a non dog **** version, then I'll simply wait or just not bother. My 2070s can just about cope with the games I play at the resolution and refresh rate I'm targeting. Just means I have to drop a few settings down.
I respect your point of view but also respectfully disagree.
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For airfreight TNT and FedEx have imposed 50KG per day per account so we have split a 250KG shipment from China in to 5 over 5 days. We have another 500KG shipment next week which they will take but have added another 50% per KG on top of the price increase from the first lockdown.
And in both cases you can't get reference cards, as they were just bait&switch more than anything else. Hence, MSRP is nowhere to be seen and likely won't be till many months later, if ever. Might drop there only when next gen comes, for all we know.
We are experiencing similar with stuff as well, our Taiwan office books flights and containers to get product shipped over to us and this month has being hard, thankfully all our big stuff that is none price volatile we sorted months ago and paid for extra storage capacity here in the UK as we expected this November to be bad, it happens every year but this year it is even worse.
End of the day all we can all do is our best and a lot of people are going to have to learn to be patient.
This has little to do with pandemic or supply issues. If you look back in time, this is what always happened with every single new GPU being released for both AMD and NVidia - lack of supply and overblown prices by AIB. Though, back in the days reference designs had bad coolers, yet now they have very good ones. Yet it's impossible to buy one from either vendor. Also, supply usually normalised after 1-2 months in the past, yet for NVidia it's still bad after all that time since release. Hence, this time we'll have to wait longer, if not much longer, for any more normal prices to come. Pandemic will be just a nice excuses for AIBs to scalp us for as long as they can, I reckon.
I reckon the real problem is the latter part, which is that they flat out refuse to ship things to UK. If you haven't read that far before you answered... And so then we have airfreight only, which is much more expensive and much smaller, as per higher post by OC peeps.
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Agree, if they Flat out refuse, then its a problem, which has a knock on effect.
Soldato
Well without being in the business obviously im speculating here, but if they won't ship for £5000, maybe they'll ship for £10,000, or £15,000? On a 10,000 piece shipment, that still is only an extra couple of quid per unit.
i also work in shipping and china is currently causing me sleepless nights. We are owned by a haulage company who are clueless as to why my rates have currently gone from $2500 to $6500 per container, trying to explain it to them is like trying to understand mandarin.