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Managed to get in quick on a competitor for a preorder of a 5600x.

I have a X570 Tomahawk, new memory and NVME sat ready to build. I had ordered a 3700x as a stop gap thinking it would be months before I could grab a 5600x.

Which NVMe and memory did you go for? I've got my case and X570 Tomahawk sat waiting with a 5800X and 3070 on the way (hopefully).
 
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Which NVMe and memory did you go for? I've got my case and X570 Tomahawk sat waiting with a 5800X and 3070 on the way (hopefully).

I've just bought NVME and memory for my 5900x build. NVME was a Sabrent PCI4.0 2TB model from competitor, it has some great reviews, will be using it as my main drive and then moving my Samsung 970pro nvme to a secondary drive.
Memory went with Team Group Xtreem "8Pack Edition" 64GB (4x16GB) DDR4 PC4-28800C17 3600MHz Quad Channel Kit
 

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I've just bought NVME and memory for my 5900x build. NVME was a Sabrent PCI4.0 2TB model from competitor, it has some great reviews, will be using it as my main drive and then moving my Samsung 970pro nvme to a secondary drive.
Memory went with Team Group Xtreem "8Pack Edition" 64GB (4x16GB) DDR4 PC4-28800C17 3600MHz Quad Channel Kit

I'd keep the 970 Pro as your main drive. The Sabrent 4.0 drives are fake gen4 with speeds not that much faster than what 3.0 can achieve. Wait until the better 4.0 drives are available, like the Rocket 4 Plus.
 
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I'd keep the 970 Pro as your main drive. The Sabrent 4.0 drives are fake gen4 with speeds not that much faster than what 3.0 can achieve. Wait until the better 4.0 drives are available, like the Rocket 4 Plus.


Incorrect. It isn't fake.

The speed is enough to fully saturate PCIe 3.0 with spare left over. Not fully saturating PCIe 40.0 doesn't mean it is fake. It's all about price to performance.
 
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I'd keep the 970 Pro as your main drive. The Sabrent 4.0 drives are fake gen4 with speeds not that much faster than what 3.0 can achieve. Wait until the better 4.0 drives are available, like the Rocket 4 Plus.

will do some testing once installed but figures I've seen from reviews show the sabrent quite a bit higher than the 970 I've got at present.
 

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Incorrect. It isn't fake.

The speed is enough to fully saturate PCIe 3.0 with spare left over. Not fully saturating PCIe 40.0 doesn't mean it is fake. It's all about price to performance.

The only good NVME 4.0 drives are the SN850, 980 Pro or the Rocket 4 Plus (Phison E18 controller). The normal 4.0 Rockets are only good if you Raid 0 them.
 
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New Gibbo update...



Hi there

An update so far:
5950X - 253 units shipped and a further 60ish should be shipping this week, leaving less than 100 backorders, a further 400 are due by end of December.
5900X - 399 units shipped, the 300 overdue are still overdue and could arrive any time, distributor cannot give a date as it keeps sipping and an additional 800 by end of Decembers, so all backorders will be cleared by end of December.
5800X - 186 units shipped so far, 2100 units are due by end of December and will clear all backorders.
5600X - 145 units shipped so far, 2000 units are due by end of December and will clear all backorders.

We will start taking fresh orders on Ryzen 5000 series at end of month or early January
 
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Good news from @Gibbo
“Hi there

An update so far:
5950X - 253 units shipped and a further 60ish should be shipping this week, leaving less than 100 backorders, a further 400 are due by end of December.
5900X - 399 units shipped, the 300 overdue are still overdue and could arrive any time, distributor cannot give a date as it keeps sipping and an additional 800 by end of Decembers, so all backorders will be cleared by end of December.
5800X - 186 units shipped so far, 2100 units are due by end of December and will clear all backorders.
5600X - 145 units shipped so far, 2000 units are due by end of December and will clear all backorders.

We will start taking fresh orders on Ryzen 5000 series at end of month or early January. :)
 
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The only good NVME 4.0 drives are the SN850, 980 Pro or the Rocket 4 Plus. The normal 4.0 Rockets are only good if you Raid 0 them.

Read...

Rocket 4 FULLY saturates PCIe 3.0

You are putting arbitrary standards in place for no reason. They are perfectly good on there own, you don't need to Raid 0 them. I am NOT saying they fully saturate PCIe 4.0, what I am saying is they need PCIe 4.0 to reach their full speed.

5000 MBps read in PCIe 4.0

vs

3400 MBps read in PCIe 3.0

Your claim that it's a bad 4.0 drive is completely wrong. You are gaining 1600 MBps read.

I paid £169 for my 1TB Sabrent Rocket 4

A 980 Pro 1TB costs £220. £50 more (about 30% more than I paid) for 7000MBps read for 40% more read speed... but here is the kicker. Xbox Series X (read Direct Storage API target) is 4.8GBps, so we are not going to see much of a gaming increase from that £50.
 

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will do some testing once installed but figures I've seen from reviews show the sabrent quite a bit higher than the 970 I've got at present.

Put any sort of pressure on the 4.0 Sabrent and the speed will drop off rapidly. IIRC it's a glorified E12 controller with a gen4 PHY. The newer Gen4 controllers (E18) are miles better and actually achieve 4.0 speeds. It's luck of the draw too whether you get revision 1 or 2 - the latter being a nerfed drive.
 

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Read...

Rocket 4 FULLY saturates PCIe 3.0

You are putting arbitrary standards in place for no reason. They are perfectly good on there own, you don't need to Raid 0 them. I am NOT saying they fully saturate PCIe 4.0, what I am saying is they need PCIe 4.0 to reach their full speed.

5000 MBps read in PCIe 4.0

vs

3400 MBps read in PCIe 3.0

Your claim that it's a bad 4.0 drive is completely wrong. You are gaining 1600 MBps read.

I paid £169 for my 1TB Sabrent Rocket 4

A 980 Pro 1TB costs £220. £50 more (about 30% more than I paid) for 7000MBps read for 40% more read speed... but here is the kicker. Xbox Series X (read Direct Storage API target) is 4.8GBps, so we are not going to see much of a gaming increase from that £50.

I feel bad for you paying £169 that then, they've had your pants down. Keep justifying your purchase though if it makes you feel better.
 
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