Poll: Which is the better visual upgrade, HDR 10 or Ray Tracing?

pp111 · 1 Dec 2020 at 12:53

Personally, I keep getting bigger and bigger monitors that use all the available GPU power to run. Ray Tracing and HDR just don't seem as important as raw fps at higher and higher resolutions.

4k4uNuNu · 1 Dec 2020 at 12:53

Is there a reason I can't have both?

gpuerrilla · 1 Dec 2020 at 12:53

This is golden. Love the backslapping and comradery

Poneros · 1 Dec 2020 at 12:54

The end game setup for me is this

Just don't know where I'll put the centre channel

Woodsta888 · 1 Dec 2020 at 13:05

LtMatt said:
I've no doubt there is better than what i have (Samsung CRG90 5120x1440)

But, it still is a massive upgrade from a non HDR display.

I also need a display that can sit on a desk, to be used for browsing and working with multiple Excel spreadsheets etc. Ultra wide is great for that.

10,000 was good a few years back, but things have moved on since then.

That your panel you are using for the HDR arguement. Response times one of the slowest for a VA panel with AVERAGE G2G times of 13ms+ and HDR reviewed as crap as it has 10 vertical dimming zones?

Heard it all now. YOU have never seen true HDR pal. This is what this thread you started is

AMD employee finds tiny clip of something on the internet where some channel that gets paid from making videos for clicks - answers a Q from an email - finishes for this guys opinion as a p[reference for HDR if it's done well.

Puts question on forum - then assumes knowingly that 90% that voted for RT haven't seen HDR properly. Then posts own monitor.

Can't believe you actually put this in a forum for all to see. LOL.

You mates with 4k8k?

deuse · 1 Dec 2020 at 13:11

chris85oc said:
https://www.rtings.com/tv/reviews/sony/z9d

seems like only 1600 nits on a 10% window with all the negatives of LCD.

pretending it’s better than OLED

Go and watch hdtvtest.
You know the real people who know what they are talking about

Then you can keep telling your charismas stories to yourself.

What have you got?

LtMatt · 1 Dec 2020 at 13:23

Woodsta888 said:
That your panel you are using for the HDR arguement. Response times one of the slowest for a VA panel with AVERAGE G2G times of 13ms+ and HDR reviewed as crap as it has 10 vertical dimming zones?

Heard it all now. YOU have never seen true HDR pal. This is what this thread you started is

AMD employee finds tiny clip of something on the internet where some channel that gets paid from making videos for clicks - answers a Q from an email - finishes for this guys opinion as a p[reference for HDR if it's done well.

Puts question on forum - then assumes knowingly that 90% that voted for RT haven't seen HDR properly. Then posts own monitor.

Can't believe you actually put this in a forum for all to see. LOL.

You mates with 4k8k?

Are you feeling okay? You seem pretty riled up.

I can see you want an argument, but it's just opinions.

Take a deep breath and calm down.

Th0nt said:
This is golden. Love the backslapping and comradery

Some heads have gone here, oh dear.

DanF · 1 Dec 2020 at 13:29

Ray Tracing, it's the future
HDR, we've had it for years now and it can only enhance what's already there, which is baked and faked lighting

jumping from quake 2 rtx to rasterization only games like say destiny 2 is a bit of a shock as it really highlights how fake they look
also PC hdr is pretty pants, a lot of games don't use it correctly and most monitors are lol worthy at displaying it atm (owner of lg 38GN950-B monitor & lg oled tv)

Woodsta888 · 1 Dec 2020 at 13:31

LtMatt said:
Are you feeling okay? You seem pretty riled up.

I can see you want an argument, but it's just opinions.

Take a deep breath and calm down.

Some heads have gone here, oh dear.

Projection, love it.

Have a lie down. And put AMD back in front - it'll make more sense.

Mark1989 · 1 Dec 2020 at 13:33

Hard for me to say as I've only experienced little bits of ray tracing in spider man on PS5.

However the bits it has are bloody great! HDR though I really do find makes a massive difference.

I need to see more games with RT to judge, no way for me to see it on PC as GPU I have doesn't have the ability for RT

imginy · 1 Dec 2020 at 13:34

Pottsey said:
Never heard of HDtest will take a look. As I said before Destiny looks great in HDR but Division 2 the black levels are wrong, all washed out and dull. It looks massively worse in HDR and no matter what I do I cannot get it to work correct. You know how washed out the screen goes when you set RGB to limited. That is how HDR Division 2 looks for a lot of people. Even though its on RGB full it feels and looks like RGB limited.

I could say the same for Ray Tracing. It feels like people don’t understand the question and have not seen proper ray tracing in motion. Ideally you want both but if I had to choose it would be Ray Tracing all the way.

I haven't had chance to watch this vid but chance are he will go deep into the HDR settings and tell ya best way to set it up.
https://youtu.be/sAMKhgbN9lM

LtMatt · 1 Dec 2020 at 13:39

Woodsta888 said:
Projection, love it.

Have a lie down. And put AMD back in front - it'll make more sense.

I'm glad you've calmed down, there really is no need to get some emotional over someone having a different opinion to you.

Feel free to disagree sure, but getting confrontational over it is completely unnecessary.

Woodsta888 · 1 Dec 2020 at 13:50

LtMatt said:
I'm glad you've calmed down, there really is no need to get some emotional over someone having a different opinion to you.

Feel free to disagree sure, but getting confrontational over it is completely unnecessary.

Your grasp on reality is almost as accurate as your claim on experiencing HDR.

LtMatt · 1 Dec 2020 at 13:52

Woodsta888 said:
Your grasp on reality is almost as accurate as your claim on experiencing HDR.

You should see the performance labs, there's a whole lot of displays to try out.

Pottsey · 1 Dec 2020 at 16:33

imginy said:
I haven't had chance to watch this vid but chance are he will go deep into the HDR settings and tell ya best way to set it up.
https://youtu.be/sAMKhgbN9lM

Thanks though its Division 2 I have problems with due to looking worse with HDR. Destiny looks way better with HDR. Even though I don't have a problem with Destiny will still watch that in case it can be improved. even more.

TonyTurbo78 · 1 Dec 2020 at 16:47

All you need is OLED...OLED is life.

smogsy · 1 Dec 2020 at 17:27

LtMatt said:
Hardware Unboxed feel that HDR 10 is the better visual upgrade and I'm inclined to agree having used both. There's also the fact that HDR does not have a performance cost.

Currently using a Vesa Certified DisplayHDR 1000 display for testing.

Question at 7:22.

Please can the holy dons/mods turn this into a Poll.

Options:

HDR 10
Ray Tracing

HDR has 2-5% performance hit, its minor but it is their, RDR2 with HDR on on the xbox one X and my pc both runs worse with HDR on.

TNA · 1 Dec 2020 at 17:32

smogsy said:
HDR has 2-5% performance hit, its minor but it is their, RDR2 with HDR on on the xbox one X and my pc both runs worse with HDR on.

Yeah, this is what I was saying with my first post. Not like HDR works on every game.

LtMatt · 1 Dec 2020 at 17:57

smogsy said:
HDR has 2-5% performance hit, its minor but it is their, RDR2 with HDR on on the xbox one X and my pc both runs worse with HDR on.

That's true Smogs, there is a small performance hit but it is very minor.

4k4uNuNu · 1 Dec 2020 at 18:37

4k4uNuNu said:
Is there a reason I can't have both?

No seriously, is there a technical reason?

One provides light intensity, the other light accuracy, both are very pleasing to the eye. I want both.