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That was mainly because of the crazy finance deals on them wasn't it?
Same as 140i's
Same as 140i's
Toyota Yaris GR4 4x4 Rally going into production.....
5DR Golf R is practical and not limited production, so a bit different.
According to dealers our of the 1750 UK allocation about 1400-1500 are now sold.
Am sure there will be another batch of cars later next year, but nothing is ever certain.
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I only say it as I remember a similar amount of hype when the Mk7 Fiesta St came out. As you say they are a limited run, at least initially as demand might warrant another run.5DR Golf R is practical and not limited production, so a bit different.
According to dealers our of the 1750 UK allocation about 1400-1500 are now sold.
Am sure there will be another batch of cars later next year, but nothing is ever certain.
I wonder if Ford and Vw end up being coaxed into a Fiesta Rs and Polo R. Hopefully as a last hurrah before they are outlawed.
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I’m not surprised they make nothing on them as you get a lot of kit as standard on them. I think I only got Led headlights as standard on my Polo, everything else was an option.
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Similarly hyped to the 86 when released, that car is not so popular in sales after the initial hype has died down, unlikely to be much difference with this as its more expensive and even more compromised as everyday car compared to what is about in the hatchback sector but it does seem every other article in my feeds relates to it but of course that probably because I have been researching it and they are feeding me more of what I want
The EU GT86 is essentially Toyota's equivalent of the MX5. It's not about power but balanced performance.
The Yaris GR is the modern day 80s/90s era Lancia Delta/Escort Cosworth/Focus RS/Evo/Imprezza hot hatch.
This is the first proper 4x4 rally / driver focused homologation from any mainstream manufacturer for a long time with the exception of the Focus RS maybe. Even then MK I Focus RS was the last of that more raw lighter weight era.
The hyper hatches like the Audi RS/Golf R/AMG 45 etc are a very different focus.
Quite a few of the videos refer to the seating position as being too high. Sure owners will mod that.
But that will put even more of an awkward angle on the steering wheel :/
Small hatchbacks have high seat so you can fit in them front and rear and get correct positioning for safety, it is normal, if you are used to driving little hatchbacks I can't imagine it is that bad, I would surprise me if it was any worse than an my Abarth, always amusing parking next to that in my mx5, the top of my head is below the window line, when in the Abarth my head and shoulders are above the window line, generally lower seats can be fitted, often things like body computers are put under there so not always straight forward, as there is so much rally hang over I wonder if there are different mounting points for lower pushed back seating.
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It's also to grant you a better view of the road ahead, which is useful in a car such as this – but, understandably, a lot of people prefer a lower seating position.
Yeah I won't watch anymore review videos now, will be good to see project and build videos though
Yes I know you don't need to modify to have fun but makes for good viewing and content
That's marketing spiel, look at any of the rally cars, they sit low, Toyota are just selling the dream hard.
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It's all a compromise, as you imply – the ideal position is to have your mouth in line with the top of the wheel, in a comfortable position, and sitting upright, and that set-up has to offer an unobstructed forward view and allow all of the safety systems to function as intended.
The reason rally car seats tend to be positioned lower is that they have to accommodate the cage, helmet and leave some room for impact (and they often don't have dashes that are quite as intrusive, so they claw some visibility back). Even more so in lower-profile cars but, as with a lot of this stuff, it varies from car to car, application to application and person to person.
There are advantages to feel and feedback, of course, but I will say that the seats are probably often not as low as you might think. Codriver, yes, driver – possibly not.
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Having watched Catchpole's video, he's found a sensible position quite easily – so I would assume there is enough adjustment. He does mention that he finds them too high, though (as I did in the Focus RS). A set of aftermarket mounts will no doubt be along in due course, as was the case with the Ford. Just depends on how obtrusive you find it personally. Lower can be better, of course, but it doesn't work as well in some cars.
I will say that one of the things that bugs me about the GR Yaris is the awful intrusion into your forward view from both the media system (which will get worse when lower) and the mirror assembly. Bit of a pain. Still yet to drive one, though, but I'll sort that out in due course.
The reason rally car seats tend to be positioned lower is that they have to accommodate the cage, helmet and leave some room for impact (and they often don't have dashes that are quite as intrusive, so they claw some visibility back). Even more so in lower-profile cars but, as with a lot of this stuff, it varies from car to car, application to application and person to person.
There are advantages to feel and feedback, of course, but I will say that the seats are probably often not as low as you might think. Codriver, yes, driver – possibly not.
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Having watched Catchpole's video, he's found a sensible position quite easily – so I would assume there is enough adjustment. He does mention that he finds them too high, though (as I did in the Focus RS). A set of aftermarket mounts will no doubt be along in due course, as was the case with the Ford. Just depends on how obtrusive you find it personally. Lower can be better, of course, but it doesn't work as well in some cars.
I will say that one of the things that bugs me about the GR Yaris is the awful intrusion into your forward view from both the media system (which will get worse when lower) and the mirror assembly. Bit of a pain. Still yet to drive one, though, but I'll sort that out in due course.
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I found it too high in the Fiesta ST too. As well as the Renault hatchback I have now. You have to go back quite a long way to find a hatchback with a good seating position. The really high bonnet on most modern cars is probably another factor :/
The real rally cars are completely different inside, they do sit flat (even if not totally on the floor) and most of the dash is gone.
The real rally cars are completely different inside, they do sit flat (even if not totally on the floor) and most of the dash is gone.
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