Cyberpunk 2077 Ultra performance

Minato · 11 Dec 2020 at 20:29

CAT-THE-FIFTH said:
It might be the CPU? Toms Hardware disabled half the cores of their Core i9 9900K,essentially making it a Core i7 7700K and performance dropped noticeably. HUB said their Ryzen 5 3600 was at 80% utilisation,so it wouldn't surprise me one bit the game might work somewhat better with at least 8 cores?? So if someone is using a highly overclocked 8~16 core CPU it might be helping out?? Hopefully some reviewers will test this out soon!!

It's not the CPU. Guru3d's bench setup used a Ryzen 9 5950X on a X570 (ASUS Crosshair VIII HERO). Tom's Hardware got 54.8fps average with DLSS performance. Guru3d got 42fps average with DLSS quality - about an expected difference and similar to my own system with a Ryzen 3600. My 3600 is also about 60-70% utilisation, but my RTX 3090 FE is at 100% utilisation. At these settings on 4K, GPU is the bottleneck and not CPU.

Jacky60 · 11 Dec 2020 at 20:40

Minato said:
I'm not convinced given that MSI afterburner shows nowhere near 100% CPU usage. And even still, a 3090 FE should be able to produce more frames than what I'm getting

Cyberpunk 2077 im Technik-Test - CPU-, GPU- und Raytracing-Benchmarks [Update] (pcgameshardware.de) Look at this and report back.

Minato · 11 Dec 2020 at 20:55

Jacky60 said:
Cyberpunk 2077 im Technik-Test - CPU-, GPU- und Raytracing-Benchmarks [Update] (pcgameshardware.de) Look at this and report back.

Thanks, this supports my point just like the other 4 sources.

EVGA RTX 3090 FTW3 Ultra | 4K | RTX Psycho | DLSS Quality --> 38.1fps Average, 1% low 35.0fps
Using a Ryzen 9 5950X on an Asus X570 Crosshair VIII.

I get the same FPS at the same settings with my RTX 3090 FE, only with a Ryzen 3600 instead of a Ryzen 5950X. Ergo, the CPU makes little/no difference at 4K + RTX Ultra.

The graph at the bottom of CPU benchmarks running at 720p demonstrates nothing other than CPU is the bottleneck at very low resolutions, and having a 3070 or a 3090 would make no difference at that resolution - something we already know. Frame time and discussions around stutter are unnoticeable.

keyser · 11 Dec 2020 at 21:14

Try Medium, High, Ultra presents and tweak best combo. The game scales pretty well from what I have seen. (not actually got the game or the hardware to play it yet

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LtMatt · 11 Dec 2020 at 21:22

Minato said:
Thanks, this supports my point just like the other 4 sources.

EVGA RTX 3090 FTW3 Ultra | 4K | RTX Psycho | DLSS Quality --> 38.1fps Average, 1% low 35.0fps
Using a Ryzen 9 5950X on an Asus X570 Crosshair VIII.

I get the same FPS at the same settings with my RTX 3090 FE, only with a Ryzen 3600 instead of a Ryzen 5950X. Ergo, the CPU makes little/no difference at 4K + RTX Ultra.

The graph at the bottom of CPU benchmarks running at 720p demonstrates nothing other than CPU is the bottleneck at very low resolutions, and having a 3070 or a 3090 would make no difference at that resolution - something we already know. Frame time and discussions around stutter are unnoticeable.

Have to agree. From the small amount of single player I’ve seen so far this game is not in any way demanding in the CPU. Perhaps this changes later on, but so far only 1-3 cores seem to be boosting to 5Ghz ish under load on the 5950X.

Far Cry 5 and particularly Call of Duty Modern Warfare put the CPU under much more load. The latter uses up to all 16 cores at times in multiplayer.

justwondering · 11 Dec 2020 at 21:26

Could a lot depend on where the game was purchased with regards to performance, GOG denovo free, steam and epic = Denovo protection, which could add to performance issues.

greatash · 11 Dec 2020 at 21:38

It is very demanding on the CPU, basing it on the first hour is not realistic. The game gets much more demanding when you hit the open world and markets with loads of people.

My 2600 bottlenecks my 3060ti, I really don't think 6 cores are enough for this game maybe a 10600k.

stooeh · 11 Dec 2020 at 21:43

LtMatt said:
Loaded up the game and hit a big snag, can't use the arrow keys for movement. As a left hander i need to use those keys.

Might have to use a control pad instead.

Fellow lefty mouser eh? You can edit stuff in the actual game folder settings and should stick - "\Cyberpunk 2077\r6\config\inputUserMappings.xml"

I use numpad to move myself but arrow keys for other functions with right thumb - was very annoying that the 'use' key was hardlocked to F but you can replace all the "IK_F" with something else in the above file to get around it.

LtMatt · 11 Dec 2020 at 21:45

greatash said:
It is very demanding on the CPU, basing it on the first hour is not realistic. The game gets much more demanding when you hit the open world and markets with loads of people.

My 2600 bottlenecks my 3060ti, I really don't think 6 cores are enough for this game maybe a 10600k.

Okay fair enough I’ve not reached that part. Glad to hear it though, need to put these cores to use.

LtMatt · 11 Dec 2020 at 21:47

stooeh said:
Fellow lefty mouser eh? You can edit stuff in the actual game folder settings and should stick - "\Cyberpunk 2077\r6\config\inputUserMappings.xml"

I use numpad to move myself but arrow keys for other functions with right thumb - was very annoying that the 'use' key was hardlocked to F but you can replace all the "IK_F" with something else in the above file to get around it.

Yup,

Thanks I did find link talking about that.

smogsy · 11 Dec 2020 at 22:01

well new patch is out 1.04 some small quest fixes mainly
https://comicbook.com/gaming/news/cyberpunk-2077-update-patch-notes-ps4-ps5-pc/

greatash · 11 Dec 2020 at 22:06

LtMatt said:
Okay fair enough I’ve not reached that part. Glad to hear it though, need to put these cores to use.

Yeah I just ordered a 3800XT, too much dropped frames and stutter with a 2600 when driving. GPU usage is 50-70%, sometimes 90% indoors.

stooeh · 11 Dec 2020 at 22:14

6 core 5600X would be fine though - my old 6 core 5820K not so much

smogsy · 11 Dec 2020 at 22:19

greatash said:
Yeah I just ordered a 3800XT, too much dropped frames and stutter with a 2600 when driving. GPU usage is 50-70%, sometimes 90% indoors.

2950x is 66%

Martini1991 · 11 Dec 2020 at 22:27

greatash said:
Yeah I just ordered a 3800XT, too much dropped frames and stutter with a 2600 when driving. GPU usage is 50-70%, sometimes 90% indoors.

It'll be the core for core performance in the 2600, unless the full CPU is 100%?

nvidiamd · 11 Dec 2020 at 22:53

So it looks like not only that the game is Nvidia friendly, it is also Intel friendly (not using the Zen 3 as much as it could ).
https://twitter.com/CapFrameX/status/1337514945970311172

Grim5 · 11 Dec 2020 at 23:00

nvidiamd said:
So it looks like not only that the game is Nvidia friendly, it is also Intel friendly (not using the Zen 3 as much as it could ).
https://twitter.com/CapFrameX/status/1337514945970311172

Developement on cyberpunk started like in 2012/2013 so what do you expect

nvidiamd · 11 Dec 2020 at 23:07

Grim5 said:
Developement on cyberpunk started like in 2012/2013 so what do you expect

Yeah so they had the 10900k but not the Ryzen CPUs. It looks like it is the same on older Ryzens, they are used much less than the intel CPUs so there is a big drop in performance.

RavenXXX2 · 11 Dec 2020 at 23:08

Yeah that is an 10900k with a heavy clock/memory/cache overclock. They are the same when stock or both with OC.

nvidiamd · 11 Dec 2020 at 23:18

RavenXXX2 said:
Yeah that is an 10900k with a heavy clock/memory/cache overclock. They are the same when stock or both with OC.

The frames i posted are at 4k with DLSS. That difference is huge for 4k.