The Tesla Thread

WJA96 · 29 Dec 2020 at 07:34

Just following up on the cold start/efficiency thing Tesla Bjorn recently posted this..

https://youtu.be/Gduwp2ik4ys

188Wh/mi over 50km at 56mph and it was sub-zero outside as well. @Patrick020812 I’d say if you are taking it a bit easier and still getting over 250Wh/mi I’d get it checked out.

neocon · 8 May 2021 at 22:26

I heard you don't need service a model 3 , is this true?

What are running costs like, apart from tyres and MOT , what other costs are there?

WJA96 · 8 May 2021 at 22:57

neocon said:
I heard you don't need service a model 3 , is this true?

What are running costs like, apart from tyres and MOT , what other costs are there?

There is no routine servicing schedule other than replacing the cabin pollen filter (which you can do yourself) and they recommend that you change the brake fluid at 2 years. Other than that it’s fix it if it breaks.

b0rn2sk8 · 8 May 2021 at 23:32

https://www.tesla.com/en_GB/support/car-maintenance

neocon · 9 May 2021 at 09:16

Anyone had a significant fix required out of warranty?

b0rn2sk8 · 9 May 2021 at 09:25

I doubt it, they’ll all be under warranty for some time (4 years/50k) unless they’ve done very high miles.

The drivetrain has an 8 year/100k warranty.

The oldest Model 3 you’ll find is on a 19 plate.

CaptainRAVE · 9 May 2021 at 11:07

WJA96 said:
Other than that it’s fix it if it breaks.

Probably in the garage more regularly than an annual service then.

glenimp617 · 9 May 2021 at 18:29

Just been on my first long trip in the etron and managed 145 miles with 32 miles of range left.

It was constant motorway....very boring.

Not bad considering it was cold and had the wipers on for the entire trip both ways.

Tried to use regen as much as I could on the return leg, forgot about it to begin with.

CaptainRAVE · 9 May 2021 at 18:44

TheOracle said:
Just been on my first long trip in the etron and managed 145 miles with 32 miles of range left.

It was constant motorway....very boring.

Not bad considering it was cold and had the wipers on for the entire trip both ways.

Tried to use regen as much as I could on the return leg, forgot about it to begin with.

145 miles with 32 left? That’s it? On a motorway?

Russinating · 9 May 2021 at 18:51

CaptainRAVE said:
Probably in the garage more regularly than an annual service then.

CaptainRAVE said:
145 miles with 32 left? That’s it? On a motorway?

What are you trying to get out of posting here exactly?

CaptainRAVE · 9 May 2021 at 18:57

Russinating said:
What are you trying to get out of posting here exactly?

Sorry if I’ve offended you. I was just shocked by the lack of range.

b0rn2sk8 · 9 May 2021 at 19:06

TheOracle said:
Just been on my first long trip in the etron and managed 145 miles with 32 miles of range left.

It was constant motorway....very boring.

Not bad considering it was cold and had the wipers on for the entire trip both ways.

Tried to use regen as much as I could on the return leg, forgot about it to begin with.

Do you have a 50 or 55?

glenimp617 · 9 May 2021 at 19:09

b0rn2sk8 said:
Do you have a 50 or 55?

50

I thought it was quite good

b0rn2sk8 · 9 May 2021 at 19:11

TheOracle said:
50

I thought it was quite good

Agreed, not bad for a 50.

Journey · 9 May 2021 at 19:47

CaptainRAVE said:
Sorry if I’ve offended you. I was just shocked by the lack of range.

That is what happens when you shoehorn BEV technology into an ICE designed car, with no care for anything but selling to the luxury market, they are lovely places to sit it (totally silent), but you'd never buy one, only lease on the cheap.

CaptainRAVE said:
Probably in the garage more regularly than an annual service then.

Yes, most people would park them in the garage if they have the choice.

WJA96 · 9 May 2021 at 19:58

CaptainRAVE said:
Probably in the garage more regularly than an annual service then.

While they have a shocking reputation for new-build delivery fit and finish (paint is especially prone to issues on delivery), mechanically not much goes wrong with the Model 3 because there is very little to go wrong. The batteries, motor(s) and inverter(s) are bulletproof - I've never heard of one failing, the BMS and control software are very robust and the steering, brakes and suspension are sourced from the same people the German manufacturers source their components from. So good for 3-10 years depending on use.

WJA96 · 9 May 2021 at 20:01

Journey said:
That is what happens when you shoehorn BEV technology into an ICE designed car, with no care for anything but selling to the luxury market, they are lovely places to sit it (totally silent), but you'd never buy one, only lease on the cheap.

Actually, the eTron platform is a ground-up EV. It's just not a very efficient EV. They purposely didn't make it aero because they wanted something that looked like a 'normal' Audi Qn model. And they used crappy battery technology, the BMS is out of the ark and the motors aren't the best.

Journey · 9 May 2021 at 20:12

WJA96 said:
Actually, the eTron platform is a ground-up EV.

Actually the e-tron 50/55 are both MLB Evo platform heavily adapted to fit the BEV electronics, battery etc.

WJA96 · 9 May 2021 at 21:17

Journey said:
Actually the e-tron 50/55 are both MLB Evo platform heavily adapted to fit the BEV electronics, battery etc.

Not the same as a converted ICE platform though. There is no ICE or hybrid eTron. It’s not like an MG ZS, or a Kona or even an Ioniq. They didn’t take an existing car and retrofit anything. The entire eTron family are ground-up BEVs and only available as BEV vehicles.

Journey · 9 May 2021 at 21:29

WJA96 said:
Not the same as a converted ICE platform though.

What?

It is the MLB platform, been in use since 2012 in almost all VW Group SUV style cars, the isn't MEB or PPE, it is MLB, and entirely ICE designed platform, with the BEV guts shoved it in, which it was never designed for, end of conversation. Ok?