or ? comfort(seats alone)/still-fast/more economical ... still in warranty
Volvo V60
2017 (67 reg)
D6 TWIN ENGINE R-DESIGN LUX NAV 2.4 5dr
I wouldn't want a Labrador in a V60. Not exactly roomy for an estate. More 3 series size.
Miss my 535D Touring, traded in for new 530D which is good, but sounds too standard diesel. BMW please give us a 340hp 535D like they get in Europe!Hi All,
Looking to upgrade our current car which is a VW Passat TDI 170 Sport. I've been wanting to upgrade it for a while but buying a house and Covid saw to that! I’ve got the following shortlist:
- German as I prefer the build quality
- Fast, ideally >300BHP
- Economical (not expecting 60+ MPG but don’t want 25 MPG on a run)
- Prefer larger cars; has to be an estate as we have a Labrador
- Decent level of kit (Xenons, up to date Sat Nav, heated seats, reversing camera etc)
- Engaging to drive
- Up to £18,000
Now, our mileage is about 9,000 a year, max. This puts us firmly in the petrol category but I cannot find many high-performance cars that fit the specification. I’m looking at cars around 2014/2015 when diesel reigned supreme. I’ve seen literally a couple of F11 535i but they are more than the F11 535D so don’t seem a better buy? If money were no object, I’d have an RS6 parked on the drive. The RS4 is just out on my budget and I don’t think I am mentally ready for RS running costs just yet. The C63 appeals to me but again, just out of budget.
My parents bought an A6 BiTDi recently and I really loved the amount of shove it had at any revs, found the drive sterile but not horrendous. I much prefer the interior of the F11 though.
I’ve thought about a 530D which I know are more than capable but I really fancy the twin turbos. I know from a sensible point of view it makes little sense but the prices are quite close.
The issue I have is knowing which options are absolute must haves? I know I am going to have to forfeit some.
Are there any other cars I should be considering? It feels really wrong to be looking at a fast diesel when I do such little milage but I don’t see a lot of other options?
Miss my 535D Touring, traded in for new 530D which is good, but sounds too standard diesel.
Yes. And no. I think it's worth considering. They are really nice places to be. And with the 280PS and the all-wheel drive they're very quick and very easy to exploit on UK roads. It's much easier to really use the power on a 280PS all wheel drive car than a rear wheel drive car. But I hear some people like to park their cars backwards in hedges
offset by they don't kick down multiple speeds, also slipping the clutch/jerkiness in town driving.but isn't as quick or responsive as the DSG. Not a massive issue but worth mentioning.
The ZF8 is very good though, but isn't as quick or responsive as the DSG.
I beg to differ on that. The N57 535D had twin exhausts + 50 odd extra hp over the 530D and more growl when you floored it.Note to MG42: This isn't because it's a 530d, it's because it's a B57. The older N57, which is found in the F10, is used for both 535d and 530d and they both sound the same.
I beg to differ on that. The N57 535D had twin exhausts + 50 odd extra hp over the 530D and more growl when you floored it.
Nothing the DSG offers better suits a higher power diesel which is why even Audi don't use it on the most powerful ones, the A6 BiTDI has a ZF8.
People interested in razor sharp shift times do not drive diesel cars.
If you're buying a diesel estate for the noise, you are missing the point entirely.
I did subsequently watch a more size comparable v90 utube 5+e comparison, but they don't do it with the interesting 300bhp diesel phev power plant
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=AQ0zjq0uin4