you are right, the lakes dont mean anything anymore.
supposed to define architectures but intel has just not bothered to drop the lakes from the naming anymore and kept it for Ice and Comet and the upcoming Alder.
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you are right, the lakes dont mean anything anymore.
supposed to define architectures but intel has just not bothered to drop the lakes from the naming anymore and kept it for Ice and Comet and the upcoming Alder.
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To be fair, Sunny Cove was also used in Lakefield which is a different beast to Ice Lake, but beyond that it's looking like Intel are running one Cove per Lake now, which makes the double-name redundant.
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ah right ok, these names, so many lakes ha ha
Only a matter of time before we have lakelake ha ha
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Well, we do have Lakefield which is wonderfully contradictory. Almost as contradictory as a graphics card called Arctic Sound
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More like sewage lake, with all the you know what thats in it.
Good grief Intel, we knew you were in trouble but FFS the situation they are now in takes the worst that AMD and Nvidia have ever done and wound it up to 11.
Good grief Intel, we knew you were in trouble but FFS the situation they are now in takes the worst that AMD and Nvidia have ever done and wound it up to 11.
Field of lakes, one lake to rule them all...maybe. :>
alderlake also sounds like - All The Lake. Maybe it has some meaning to it after all.
That may well be the case and FWIW I actually appreciate you rationalising the point, so thanks for that. It's better than just dishing out hate (which is wierd, as they are all companies that just make 'stuff' for profit) or exaggerating to make a point.
However, if rocket lake is priced right and is competitive from a performance point of view, then is shouldn't be dismissed out of hand. Don't get me wrong, maybe it won't and maybe it's a desperate stop gap measure from intel. Also you say "right here, right now" but I thought we're trying to discuss an upcoming product?
But, maybe it will be tempting enough to be a logical upgrade for some people, given that everyone is at a different cycle in their journey.
Some of the 'leaked' benchmarks show a substantially higher minimum and 99% percentile compared to comet lake for example. For where I am now, I'd be most interested in that than just 'averages' which are lazy benchmarks anyway. Or, it's rubbish and I'll wait until Q3/Q4 2021 etc. It's not a big deal either way.
But the headlines are "it's slower", "it uses 300Watts", "It's crap".
*Edit* actually I just read a few of the other new replies and it seems like IQs have dropped, or people are migrating here from WCCFTECH!
That's fine, I just know it's not worth discussing things here so saves me time.
Well, at least Comet Lake means something more powerful and faster than Rocket Lake - Comet >>> Rocket.
If Intel had any sense they'd move the IGP off the CPU and onto the motherboard. And crank up the cores.
similiar for AMD, they should stick an iGPU on their boards
Indeed, Intel's situation is more desperate though as they have a decent Intel Xe Graphics core on their new CPUs but it's shared with CPU on a silly process node.
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thats why i said it ha ha
lake field and everything lake might one day become lakelake !
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I'd argue yes it should. Intel will not price it competitively, because it's Intel. They're going to milk the 1% 1080p lead over the 5900X in a handful over games and charge accordingly; AMD pitched the 5900X as their top gaming CPU, so that will be Intel's comparison point. Completely ignoring the fact it will have a 4 core deficit and use twice the power. Because there's no way Intel could do a proper comparison against the 5800X because they'd get stomped into the ground once again. We've already seen Intel's marketing slides to exactly this, and leaked prices show it to be more expensive than the 5900X.
Overpriced CPU on a platform that will be stupid money because of the insane VRM count the boards must have, not choose to have. A platform that is also be inferior to the year-old X570 as well. Unless Intel are literally charging 5600X money for their top 11900K, the entire 11th gen should be dismissed out of hand on principle: yet another joke CPU rushed out by a company whos hubris and illegal practices are finally biting them on the ass, but yet still fleece their customers because they know the fanboys are idiots who'd just lap it up regardless.
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I see no z590 boards for sale any where. Need to see prices first before making a decision?
I want to nitpick a bit.
Tock used to be same architecture, smaller tech process. Think Sandy bridge to Ivy bridge or Haswell to Broadwell
Tick used to be same tech process, new architecture. Ivy Bridge to Haswell or Broadwell to Skylake.
What Intel was doing since Skylake is refresh, refresh, refresh. Same arch, same 14nm, same memory controller, same graphics even.
Rocket Lake is sort of Tick, although underwhelming.
But next step Alder Lake will try to both Tick and Tock and DDR5 and Pcie5 and hybrid cores in one, bound to be problematic.
They know the market. The few CPUs they will produce get sold out anyway.
Intels main goal is to make their way back to all review sites standard configurations to stay in minds of readers as the fastest gaming CPU.
Same as Nvidia did with ridiculously expensive 2080Ti and 3090. Yep, its the top dog. Means Nvidia is fastest. Means you don't feel bad buying 2060. Its fastest, right?
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I guess we should start seeing them here in the next week as well
We don't have stock yet, I think its just some sort of NDA that expired allowing for pre orders.
The stores show stock arriving 10th of March
