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That's ridiculous considering it actually had actually sold. Is that even allowed if you can prove the seller removed the item from sale for none of the legit reasons (it's broken, lost etc)
That's ridiculous considering it actually had actually sold. Is that even allowed if you can prove the seller removed the item from sale for none of the legit reasons (it's broken, lost etc)
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I had clocked that. To be honest I had thought he had a private offer of a lot more so was not expecting it to pop back up!
There probably is some rules about doing that but I have had enough wins on ebay over the last 18months to get hung up on this idiot
There probably is some rules about doing that but I have had enough wins on ebay over the last 18months to get hung up on this idiot
So I initially bought another Sun Ultra with the intention of modifying it, but when it arrived it was so clean I thought that would be sacrilege. So instead I took it apart, cleaned everything, and decide to go period correct and max out the spec.
It’s absolutely mint. I don’t really have a need for it but keeping it because it’s just such a nice thing. It’s also surprisingly fast for general computing tasks.
Xeon X3370 (Quad 3.0)
8 GB DDR2 EEC 667
Quadro FX 5800 4GB (this was like £3500 at launch?!)
240GB SSD / 1TB HDD
Running Windows 7 64
It’s absolutely mint. I don’t really have a need for it but keeping it because it’s just such a nice thing. It’s also surprisingly fast for general computing tasks.
Xeon X3370 (Quad 3.0)
8 GB DDR2 EEC 667
Quadro FX 5800 4GB (this was like £3500 at launch?!)
240GB SSD / 1TB HDD
Running Windows 7 64
And my other Sun (hope you don’t mind guys I know it’s strictly not retro at all but the case is, just thought you might like to see it).
I call it Sun Ryzen (hehe)
5600x / Noctua NH-U12A
X570 Tomahawk
RX 6800 (in another machine currently)
1TB Gen 4.0 NVME
2TB Gen 3.0 NVME
2TB HDD / 1TB HDD
Seasonic Focus GX 850 Gold
Two noctua intakes (92mm lower / 120mm slim behind drive cage), one Arctic 120mm rear out
I tried to build it as clean as possible. The only giveaway from the outside is I’ve fitted a LED start button in place of the original. I’ve blanked off the front ports because I’ve removed the Sun USB headers etc (hence the nee start button). The PCI slots are all vented.
I call it Sun Ryzen (hehe)
5600x / Noctua NH-U12A
X570 Tomahawk
RX 6800 (in another machine currently)
1TB Gen 4.0 NVME
2TB Gen 3.0 NVME
2TB HDD / 1TB HDD
Seasonic Focus GX 850 Gold
Two noctua intakes (92mm lower / 120mm slim behind drive cage), one Arctic 120mm rear out
I tried to build it as clean as possible. The only giveaway from the outside is I’ve fitted a LED start button in place of the original. I’ve blanked off the front ports because I’ve removed the Sun USB headers etc (hence the nee start button). The PCI slots are all vented.
I think so. It’s not up to the same levels as a modern airflow case obviously. But they appear to be working just fine. If I have any doubts later on I will introduce another internal fan similar to @randal. Worst case I will drill out the hard drive cage, because I can do without it and just put the hard drives in an external bay.
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Swapped my scart cable for my retro games consoles to a decent one from retrogamingcables.
I have all my consoles using scart to a cheap scart switch, then that to the CRT TV with the new cable.
It makes the world of difference to the sound. It no longer has an underlying bzzzzzzzzzz.
I have all my consoles using scart to a cheap scart switch, then that to the CRT TV with the new cable.
It makes the world of difference to the sound. It no longer has an underlying bzzzzzzzzzz.
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Hang on @rare, does that mean you've got 3 Ultra 24s? 
Looking good, crazy to think how much those Xeons would have cost from Sun new fully tricked out!
Can definitely recommend the slim 120mm up front if you're running spinners in the bays. I'm a little worried about temps myself, but I think most of the heat is coming from the passive 5450 I've got in there. Loathed to swap it out in the current market lunacy.
What Noctua are you running btw? NH-U12A?
Looking good, crazy to think how much those Xeons would have cost from Sun new fully tricked out!
Can definitely recommend the slim 120mm up front if you're running spinners in the bays. I'm a little worried about temps myself, but I think most of the heat is coming from the passive 5450 I've got in there. Loathed to swap it out in the current market lunacy.
What Noctua are you running btw? NH-U12A?
Yes mate 3 of them haha!! I need an intervention...
Yeah it is mad, the Quadro alone was £3500 at launch. A 4GB card then was HUGE. Obviously this spec isn’t original but I would think buying a workstation in that spec back then would have been 5 grand or so surely.
The pictures don’t show it too well but in the Ryzen system there is a 120mm slim Noctua infront of the drive cage. I will do some more testing regards temps, I might end up fitting another fan either at the front of those drive bays or at the bottom like you did. Where did you get those 3D printed brackets mate, did you make them yourself?
The prism might not be helping matters, I found in a similar case with a lack of high airflow that the prism really made overall temps higher. It causes a lot of the heat to just swell around the CPU rather than directing it towards the rear.
Yeah it’s a NH-U12A, crazy expensive really but it fits well.
Yeah it is mad, the Quadro alone was £3500 at launch. A 4GB card then was HUGE. Obviously this spec isn’t original but I would think buying a workstation in that spec back then would have been 5 grand or so surely.
The pictures don’t show it too well but in the Ryzen system there is a 120mm slim Noctua infront of the drive cage. I will do some more testing regards temps, I might end up fitting another fan either at the front of those drive bays or at the bottom like you did. Where did you get those 3D printed brackets mate, did you make them yourself?
The prism might not be helping matters, I found in a similar case with a lack of high airflow that the prism really made overall temps higher. It causes a lot of the heat to just swell around the CPU rather than directing it towards the rear.
Yeah it’s a NH-U12A, crazy expensive really but it fits well.
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Is that your other one on the bay with the drive cages removed
I couldn’t possibly say!
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Yes you do, or an Ultra 27. I'd say probably north of 5k myself, given how Sun used to price their kit. I remember the Sun Blade workstations being ridiculously expensive.
Ah cool (literally), you did get a slim fan up front. It does make a difference. I did print them, then secured with foam double sided tape which seems to be doing the job. Let me know if you want a pair printing, happy to send them along to you.
I think you might be on to something, coupled with the 5450 passive card there's a wall of heat. I'll have to see about a NH-U12A, I've just stuck a D15 on my main PC and I'm massively impressed with it.
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For some reason I wasted £13.65 on a boxed Super Radeon VE card 
I don't even mess with retro stuff much anymore!
https://www.ebay.co.uk/itm/Super-Ra...-/203268034275?_trksid=p2349624.m46890.l49292
No idea how fast it will be compared to a TNT2 and MX4, somewhere in between I assume.
I don't even mess with retro stuff much anymore!https://www.ebay.co.uk/itm/Super-Ra...-/203268034275?_trksid=p2349624.m46890.l49292
No idea how fast it will be compared to a TNT2 and MX4, somewhere in between I assume.
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For some reason I wasted £13.65 on a boxed Super Radeon VE card
https://www.ebay.co.uk/itm/Super-Ra...-/203268034275?_trksid=p2349624.m46890.l49292
No idea how fast it will be compared to a TNT2 and MX4, somewhere in between I assume.
MX400 was notably quicker at the time (with worse image quality). Radeon 7000 should be quicker than a TNT2 Ultra though, but not by as much as you'd think.
The biggest issue for RV100/Radeon 7000 was lack of TnL.
I’ve gone a bit mad. In the last two weeks I’ve bought a EVGA 780i SLI motherboard, a Asus Striker II Extreme 790i motherboard, a load of CPU’s, a load of GPU’s (9800GTX+/ GTX 260/ GTX 275/ GTX 285) a Dell XPS 720 with the amazing Aluminium case (680i SLI motherboard) and a bunch of Coolermaster cases to add to my Coolermaster collection. I will try snd share some pictures at some point. I’m building an open test bench so I can play around with all the GPU’s a bit more easily.
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Everyone likes a Cooler Master collection.
I’ve only got 4, I keep looking out for more though!
I’ve only got 4, I keep looking out for more though!
I love the ATCS cases! My favourites. I’ve got a 201 a 101, 3 wavemasters (2 black one silver) a very interesting case using the same chassis but branded for ‘MESH’ computers and an 840. What’s really interesting about it is that it has twin 80mm outlets at the rear. I’ve never seen that on this chassis before. Picked it up the other week for about £35, I’m pleased with that as I might used the motherboard tray with the twin outlets in one of my black wavemasters...
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@rare That mesh case is interesting indeed!
I’ve got a 201, 210, 111 and a 610.
Should never have sold my 110 or 600.
Wouldn’t mind an original 201 (in brown) or a 200.
I’ve got a 201, 210, 111 and a 610.
Should never have sold my 110 or 600.
Wouldn’t mind an original 201 (in brown) or a 200.
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Picked up a "fake cache" PC-Chips Socket 3 board, an M919. Postman must delivery letter post even in the snow here, properly early at <8:30am.
Really unsure why PC-Chips chose to make these fake cache boards, I get that cache was expensive (because SRAM) and therefore selling boards without cache became commonplace until people got wise to it, hence the fake chips on the board to trick punters, however if the reason you were doing it was to sell a massively cheaper board than the competition, why put so many features and decent hardware on it?
This board for example has gold-plated AT power pins, proper metal (again gold plated or brass) clips on the RAM slots, even a gold plated 5-pin DIN for the keyboard. Add to that the fact that it's a PCI, ISA AND VLB board makes it quite versatile.
Most odd.
I'd love to find the cache module for it, but it's not actually COAST, it's a COAST-like interface for a custom cache type. When they do come up for sale they are more expensive than just buying a decent 486 board, which defeats the point.
Really unsure why PC-Chips chose to make these fake cache boards, I get that cache was expensive (because SRAM) and therefore selling boards without cache became commonplace until people got wise to it, hence the fake chips on the board to trick punters, however if the reason you were doing it was to sell a massively cheaper board than the competition, why put so many features and decent hardware on it?
This board for example has gold-plated AT power pins, proper metal (again gold plated or brass) clips on the RAM slots, even a gold plated 5-pin DIN for the keyboard. Add to that the fact that it's a PCI, ISA AND VLB board makes it quite versatile.
Most odd.
I'd love to find the cache module for it, but it's not actually COAST, it's a COAST-like interface for a custom cache type. When they do come up for sale they are more expensive than just buying a decent 486 board, which defeats the point.
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I've got my original ATC-201 in brown with solid side panel in the loft still.
Also an ATC-201 Black Widow which I picked up a few years ago. Great cases.
Also an ATC-201 Black Widow which I picked up a few years ago. Great cases.