Show yourself outAny takers for the Prime beef?
Amazon Supermarkets
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Soldato
Why is it a 'crap' idea exactly?
Why wouldn't anyone want to walk in, grab items and walk straight out again. Why would people want to queue up if that whole process can be removed from the shopping experience?
Soldato
Probably get the same feeling as when you 'mask up' before entering a shop, or even better a bank.
So what if you have an Amazon account and, like me, you don't keep a payment option stored and then you just throw that account away after grabbing a load of shopping. Then create a new one the next time you want some free shopping?.
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Caporegime
I think it will cater for the lunchtime office crew more than the general public on their weekly shop
Have you ever bought petrol from a forecourt before you numpty?
Caporegime
Why do you insist on insulting people?
Soldato
dLockers reminds me of Psycho Sonny, but with twice the attitude and ten times the amount of spare time. 
Back on topic, I've used these stores in the US a few times (called Amazon Go there rather than Amazon Fresh). It's reaalllly quick, and ideal for grabbing breakfast or lunch. I used to have competitions with colleagues on who could get their lunch fastest (three items like a salad/sandwich, a 'side' and a drink) and I managed to be in and out in in under 11 seconds the last time but I reckon I could do it in half that if I knew what I wanted first:
Back on topic, I've used these stores in the US a few times (called Amazon Go there rather than Amazon Fresh). It's reaalllly quick, and ideal for grabbing breakfast or lunch. I used to have competitions with colleagues on who could get their lunch fastest (three items like a salad/sandwich, a 'side' and a drink) and I managed to be in and out in in under 11 seconds the last time but I reckon I could do it in half that if I knew what I wanted first:
Caporegime
That’s a lot of money for a lunch!dLockers reminds me of Psycho Sonny, but with twice the attitude and ten times the amount of spare time.
Back on topic, I've used these stores in the US a few times (called Amazon Go there rather than Amazon Fresh). It's reaalllly quick, and ideal for grabbing breakfast or lunch. I used to have competitions with colleagues on who could get their lunch fastest (three items like a salad/sandwich, a 'side' and a drink) and I managed to be in and out in in under 11 seconds the last time but I reckon I could do it in half that if I knew what I wanted first:
Soldato
Food/supermarkets are really overpriced in some (most?) parts of the US! It's cheaper to eat out sometimes.
Man of Honour
The whole point of it is to gather as much information as possible about as many people as possible in order to obtain power and profit from it. It's like criminals owning legitimate businesses in that respect - the main point isn't the business itself, it's what it can be used for. Money laundering for the criminals, spying in this case. So there's no chance of using someone else's account - the business will know exactly who you are. And exactly where you've been (because your phone tracks you). And what you've said within range of any Alexa device. And everything you've looked at in the shop and how long you looked at it for and if you touched it and if your hand moved towards it at all and if so by how much. And much more besides. They will know more than enough about you to identify you. The only spying they're even claiming they're not doing yet is facial recognition. Presumably they'll either quietly add that a bit later or they think it's not necessary because they're already gathering more than enough information to identify each individual more effectively than facial recognition would.
It's too good for controlling people to pass up and it can be spun as a benefit to the targets because they can shop slightly quicker. And many people will lap that up because they're already used to being under surveillance and being manipulated by organisations using the data gathered on them.
Soldato
Selling what technology? Being able to scan your food as you go along has already been in UK supermarkets for two decades.
Caporegime
You obviously don’t know how the Amazon stores work
Soldato
Walk around with your basket or trolly, scan stuff with your phone using whatever app they put out, then walk out. Your account is then debited.
Not much different to Waitrose or the Tesco system of many years ago, except you use a phone rather than their hand held reader.
Soldato
The only time you use your phone is to gain entry. From then on you just take what you want and the cameras/sensors know exactly what you've taken, or put back (even if on a different shelf).
It's nothing like self scan.
It's nothing like self scan.
what if someone puts the wrong item on a shelf then someone picks it up? what price do they have the real or new location price?
does everyone really want to be surrounded by sensors and cameras when there shopping anyway?
Associate
Nope. You don't scan the items.
Man of Honour
The item price. There are so many sensors of various types that the system recognises each item regardless of where it is. Also, of course, each person who enters the shop. Or walks past it.
The item price could be changed to be different depending on who was holding it and whose bag it was put into. Say, for example, Amazon decided to charge "white" people higher prices in order to pander to popular racism. That would be easy for them to do. Or if they wanted to vary prices by person as part of manipulating customers they could do that too, changing the price on a person by person basis. For example, if Amazon was pushing you, specifically you personally, into something they could make the prices for products relevant to it cheaper for you.
Apparently the great majority of people either don't care or welcome it because they won't have to queue. The cost doesn't matter as long as they don't have to queue after buying whatever they chose. Or whatever Amazon has pushed them into choosing.
Soldato
Of course the cost matters. I've not been to the UK one, but the cost was about the same in the US city ones compared to a 'normal' US supermarket/deli in the areas I've been to.
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Was just thinking that it would be ironic if CV were largely still about and you had to queue to go in.
Moving stuff around on shelves might be a bit of pita for them with the soon to be anti Amazon protestors.
Moving stuff around on shelves might be a bit of pita for them with the soon to be anti Amazon protestors.