The New European Super (borefest) League

BaZ87 · 19 Apr 2021 at 17:09

ik9000 said:
for the ESL? Qe? How are they drawing that conclusion?

They're referring to the empty threats and failure of the goverment to carry out their review.

6 months ago they were going to nail the PL if they didn't help the EFL and they don't **** all about it. Just like the bs statements last year about players wages, they're making noises that the public want to hear at the moment, whether they actually do anything this time we'll have to wait and see.

Bigpig · 19 Apr 2021 at 17:10

So what does the Fan lead review do?

robfosters · 19 Apr 2021 at 17:13

ik9000 said:
As if that was a government mandate FFS, and in a time of covid pandemic. Get over themselves. The tories are clowns but there's better stuff to go after them about.

Plus, football fans tend to take a dim view of politics getting involved with football.

BaZ87 · 19 Apr 2021 at 17:16

ik9000 said:
As if that was a government mandate FFS, and in a time of covid pandemic. Get over themselves. The tories are clowns but there's better stuff to go after them about.

robfosters said:
Plus, football fans tend to take a dim view of politics getting involved with football.

The Tory's have been talking about this review for 10 years. You cannot blame covid for their failure to act.

SPG · 19 Apr 2021 at 17:16

Does all this mean less football in the papers, TV once all this fuss over a bag of wind is over.

Surely this is a good thing

robfosters · 19 Apr 2021 at 17:18

BaZ87 said:
The Tory's have been talking about this review for 10 years. You cannot blame covid for their failure to act.

What could they have done that would have prevented this from happening? It was always going to happen eventually.

ik9000 · 19 Apr 2021 at 17:19

BaZ87 said:
The Tory's have been talking about this review for 10 years. You cannot blame covid for their failure to act.

goodness the tories have had power for 10 years now. Time flies doesn't it!?

Curio · 19 Apr 2021 at 17:19

Apparently a board member from one of the English 6 said the owners are willing to be kicked out of the PL and they'll be fielding weaker sides in the PL anyway. He also said the Glazers can't get their heads around the concept of relegation and think it's a ridiculous concept, hence this being a closed league system.

Goodbye footy

BaZ87 · 19 Apr 2021 at 17:20

robfosters said:
What could they have done that would have prevented this from happening? It was always going to happen eventually.

Hypothetically, and I know you don't like copying the Germans, but if PL clubs were a minimum 51% owned by their supporters then this wouldn't happen.

robfosters · 19 Apr 2021 at 17:24

BaZ87 said:
Hypothetically, and I know you don't like copying the Germans, but if PL clubs were a minimum 51% owned by their supporters then this wouldn't happen.

Not sure where the Germanophobic accusation came from lol

CliffyG · 19 Apr 2021 at 17:26

What's the amount that the top 6 get from being in the premier league? I thought it was more than the 150 mil you get for entering the ESL.

Bigpig · 19 Apr 2021 at 17:26

Us Newcastle fan are having a kick around since the big 6 won't let our takeover happen ^^

Not sure how much is in the can

ollies · 19 Apr 2021 at 17:30

Curio said:
Apparently a board member from one of the English 6 said the owners are willing to be kicked out of the PL and they'll be fielding weaker sides in the PL anyway. He also said the Glazers can't get their heads around the concept of relegation and think it's a ridiculous concept, hence this being a closed league system.

Goodbye footy

US sports operate without relegation, so the reported comments from American owners are not a surprise. A closed-system can have its benefits too if correctly regulated.

BaZ87 · 19 Apr 2021 at 17:30

robfosters said:
Not sure where the Germanophobic accusation came from lol

Because when I discussed the Bundesliga's plans for restarting 12 months ago you got very upset about copying the Germans

CliffyG said:
What's the amount that the top 6 get from being in the premier league? I thought it was more than the 150 mil you get for entering the ESL.

It's not an either or situation. They want to be in the PL and the ESL. And the reported yearly revenue from this Super League is likely to be considerably more than £150m.

robfosters · 19 Apr 2021 at 17:30

CliffyG said:
What's the amount that the top 6 get from being in the premier league? I thought it was more than the 150 mil you get for entering the ESL.

You get paid about £35m as a flat fee payment, then top ups depending on other factors.

robfosters · 19 Apr 2021 at 17:31

BaZ87 said:
Because when I discussed the Bundesliga's plans for restarting 12 months ago you got very upset about copying the Germans

It's not an either or situation. They want to be in the PL and the ESL. And the reported yearly revenue from this Super League is likely to be considerably more than £150m.

Ok fair enough, I don’t remember. I generally have no problems with Germans. Great sausage makers.

Pigeon_Killer · 19 Apr 2021 at 17:33

Sounds like Chelsea, City and Real will be banned from the CL by Friday.

Stumble Bum · 19 Apr 2021 at 17:34

Pigeon_Killer · 19 Apr 2021 at 17:37

Stumble Bum said:

One thing I can't stand is hearing BT, Sky and UEFA complain about greed. BT and Sky tried charging people £15 to watch games during a pandemic and will be first in line to try and obtain TV rights and UEFA are nearly as corrupt as FIFA.

manic111 · 19 Apr 2021 at 17:38

Pigeon_Killer said:
One thing I can't stand is hearing BT, Sky and UEFA complain about greed. BT and Sky tried charging people £15 to watch games during a pandemic and will be first in line to try and obtain TV rights and UEFA are nearly as corrupt as FIFA.

BT and Sky did that at the PL's direction, as a way to offset lost ticket revenue.

Edit: I'm not saying that there aren't broader problems in football - of course there are. But citing them doesn't make the ESL any more palatable.