The New European Super (borefest) League

mysticsniper · 19 Apr 2021 at 21:53

adam cool dude said:
It is the beginning of the end I am afraid. The Super League is just the beginning.

It is the same with the World cup. Super League will make their own version. The endgame of this is basically the super rich Americans gaining control of world football.

Where is that LOL button?

robfosters · 19 Apr 2021 at 21:55

How much will they charge for a half time ad and will this signal a big increase in the fortunes of the foam finger manufacturers?

Will I be watching the final wondering when Lady Gaga is on?

omnomnom · 19 Apr 2021 at 21:55

mysticsniper said:
Where is that LOL button?

I mean he's gone to extremes but I fully get where he's coming from.

BaZ87 · 19 Apr 2021 at 21:56

spudbynight said:
He sat back as Simon Jordan didn't own the ground, he only owned the club. Parish believed the only way for the club to survive was if he owned its own ground again and the only way to reunite the club and ground was to buy them both during administration.

I think that's a little generous on Parish, it wasn't the only way, it was the cheapest way. It doesn't change the fact that Parish has profited hugely through owning Palace.

adam cool dude · 19 Apr 2021 at 21:59

mysticsniper said:
Where is that LOL button?

Is it really that difficult to see? If all super league players are banned by Fifa they will just end up making their own world cup. The Premier League is linked to the FA which in turn are both linked to UEFA and FIFA. The end game is for the Glazers to own world football and be one of the richest people living.

FIFA are hardly a decent outfit are they? QATAR in 2022 is the biggest fraud in the last 100 years of football. Too be honest all the organisations have themselves to blame as they allowed all these dodgy people to take over football clubs.

robfosters · 19 Apr 2021 at 22:00

BaZ87 said:
I think that's a little generous on Parish, it wasn't the only way, it was the cheapest way. It doesn't change the fact that Parish has profited hugely through owning Palace.

Has a genuine fan ever owned a big 6 club? (i can only think of Matt Harding (RIP)

abbviper · 19 Apr 2021 at 22:02

robfosters said:
How much will they charge for a half time ad and will this signal a big increase in the fortunes of the foam finger manufacturers?

Will I be watching the final wondering when Lady Gaga is on?

Forget Lady Gaga, the half time show can be the winner of the European Song Contest.

Anyone know if ESL will keep VAR?

BaZ87 · 19 Apr 2021 at 22:02

robfosters said:
Has a genuine fan ever owned a big 6 club?

I'm not sure what you class as a genuine fan Rob. David Moores was a Liverpool fan, I'm guessing that a load of the old Arsenal shareholders were too.

platypus · 19 Apr 2021 at 22:02

To the uninitiated, this seems a little like the formation of the Premier League, only it obviously affects all of Europe rather than just England - why are people more upset about this?

Also a genuine question - but why are the government talking about banning such a move? What have they got to do with private business, other than ensuring things aren't a monopoly? If - as some have mooted - a franchise system like the NFL comes to fruition, thats surely the decision of the business, isn't it?

robfosters · 19 Apr 2021 at 22:03

BaZ87 said:
I'm not sure what you class as a genuine fan Rob. David Moores was a Liverpool fan, I'm guessing that a load of the old Arsenal shareholders were too.

I’m really taking about majority ownership. And a genuine fan is one that is a fan from a young age and would gladly give up vast amounts of money to see his club win trophies.

omnomnom · 19 Apr 2021 at 22:03

platypus said:
To the uninitiated, this seems a little like the formation of the Premier League, only it obviously affects all of Europe rather than just England - why are people more upset about this?

Also a genuine question - but why are the government talking about banning such a move? What have they got to do with private business, other than ensuring things aren't a monopoly? If - as some have mooted - a franchise system like the NFL comes to fruition, thats surely the decision of the business, isn't it?

Re the government issue. Well there's not a lot they can do tbh. RE comparing it to the premier League...since when was that a closed book? If Liverpool finish 20th next season they get relegated. It isn't comparable.

robfosters · 19 Apr 2021 at 22:04

platypus said:
To the uninitiated, this seems a little like the formation of the Premier League, only it obviously affects all of Europe rather than just England - why are people more upset about this?

Also a genuine question - but why are the government talking about banning such a move? What have they got to do with private business, other than ensuring things aren't a monopoly? If - as some have mooted - a franchise system like the NFL comes to fruition, thats surely the decision of the business, isn't it?

Because it’s a closed shop.

platypus · 19 Apr 2021 at 22:05

BigNev said:
Re the government issue. Well there's not a lot they can do tbh. RE comparing it to the premier League...since when was that a closed book? If Liverpool finish 20th next season they get relegated. It isn't comparable.

Apologies - I'm sure I'd read somewhere that the PL wanted to get rid of relegation or something. Ok its not quite the same as a closed book then, granted.

manic111 · 19 Apr 2021 at 22:08

Sasahara said:
That wouldn't be the case, as the Gina Miller case was challenging the authority of the govemnerment to implement Brexit without approval from parliament.

This would be done with approval from parliament, so we are not, not following due process.

Yeah fair point, although there's absolutely no chance of parliament approving it though

Fubsy · 19 Apr 2021 at 22:08

They are only able to even think of doing this because of the history of the game, it's fans and the competitions that we have had for so long and the popularity that's grown around the world because of it. If they did this from scratch without any of that it would be worth nothing.

The beauty of THIS game, is that you can win it all, lose it all, then come back from the brink and win it again. It's euphoric when experienced. Making it a closed shop destroys this simple beauty and sanitises it to a business transaction - none of it will matter if you can't lose. Losing is just as important as the winning.

ik9000 · 19 Apr 2021 at 22:10

robfosters said:
Has a genuine fan ever owned a big 6 club? (i can only think of Matt Harding (RIP)

ken bates? but they weren't big 6 back then.

mysticsniper · 19 Apr 2021 at 22:11

adam cool dude said:
Is it really that difficult to see? If all super league players are banned by Fifa they will just end up making their own world cup. The Premier League is linked to the FA which in turn are both linked to UEFA and FIFA. The end game is for the Glazers to own world football

When the ESL is not recognised by any football governing body, how do they expect to acquire any new players. Wait until they've all become free agents?

Sasahara · 19 Apr 2021 at 22:11

platypus said:
Apologies - I'm sure I'd read somewhere that the PL wanted to get rid of relegation or something. Ok its not quite the same as a closed book then, granted.

It's not just he closed book part which is bad, the starring line up is a **** take. Arsenal and Tottenham. If this was any other line of business forming a top 15 business cartel, that restricts competition from other companies there would be real world consequences for the owners. Because it's sport they can get away with it.

manic111 said:
Yeah fair point, although there's absolutely no chance of parliament approving it though

All depends how many votes they think they can get out of it.

mmj_uk · 19 Apr 2021 at 22:15

abbviper said:
Anyone know if ESL will keep VAR?

They will have a text-in system and let the fans decide.

robfosters · 19 Apr 2021 at 22:16

mmj_uk said:
They will have a text-in system and let the fans decide.

Text in will be sponsored by KFC