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Not surprising, relatives and older friends who are retired voted solely on Brexit lines and kicking out foreigners, even though it affects them not at all. Labours stance, and awful leadership, did not line up with their bigotry. 
Tories lost the 2019 election among working age adults
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I didn't say change your vote.
If you're always annoyed that your chosen candidate loses Because "democracy" means the other people in your constituency want them, then move.
Then you can always "win"
Your miss representing things.
The working age people didn't vote.
So they can be assumed to be happy with whatever winner.
non voters should just be counted as voting for whoever won
Caporegime
I'm genuinely curious as to how they lost really. There just isn't a viable alternative right now. The labour party have no leadership. No aims. No feasible future.
The lib dems, rightfully still haven't been forgiven and have the same issues as Labour.
No other party has the size or calibre to challenge the top 2/3.
We're screwed next time around too.
The lib dems, rightfully still haven't been forgiven and have the same issues as Labour.
No other party has the size or calibre to challenge the top 2/3.
We're screwed next time around too.
And had the numbers massages to be a 100% turn out......
It's not really a stickler for language is an important distinction for grouping the categories.
For instance your claiming early retirement is a bigger factor in the population than higher education.
Yet simultaneously arguing that the former group should be excluded but not the latter
Soldato
As 2019 is the first election that I have been retired, it is the first one that I have been in the winning camp due to my being retired. All the other times I have been of working age and won or lost on that basis since 1972.
God I was ****** whenever Labour won. All those useless pensioners keeping the workers down and voting in that shambles.
God I was ****** whenever Labour won. All those useless pensioners keeping the workers down and voting in that shambles.
This seems to be being positioned (by some) as a "tories catering for the old, can't be good for the country" sort of thing. But you could flip this round and say actually what the tories need to do is address these other voters who aren't voting for them. So they will be coming up with policies to appeal to the working population. If you think about it, the retirees will typically die first so they have a problem whereby if they don't convert younger voters, they will see a diminishing share of the vote.
Maybe those charts show that the people with more life experience and generally smarter (debateable but surely there is a correlation between success in life and "smartness") realise that the Tory way of government is better than the Labour way
I'm more asking the question that saying it's a fact but, on the other side, I was raised in a council house by "great" but manual worker parents, I voted labour until I was in my mid 40s but just couldn't do again
I'm more asking the question that saying it's a fact but, on the other side, I was raised in a council house by "great" but manual worker parents, I voted labour until I was in my mid 40s but just couldn't do again
Educated rather than "smart" yes, but the biggest factor by far to success is just motivation, drive and ambition.
Soldato
Quite a few people I know who were very left leaning (I'm talking cheesyboy level and even above) 20 years ago when they were at college/Uni have changed their views radically and are far more centrist after a couple of decades of working and experience of real life.
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I'm a centre left voter. I think we need a labour government. At least once in a while if not most of the time. Don't you remember the good old days when Blair and brown were in. Ha. Not perfect but better than Cameron and may.
I don't mind Boris that much because at least he spends money. Hopefully on places other than the South East. I'm still waiting for our local train to be electrified. But no they just bought some 2nd hand diesel trains.
I think it is the boomers that skew things. There was no foreign competition when they were young. That's my explanation to boomers success. Also there are loads of them so voting wise they get beneficial policies.
I don't mind Boris that much because at least he spends money. Hopefully on places other than the South East. I'm still waiting for our local train to be electrified. But no they just bought some 2nd hand diesel trains.
I think it is the boomers that skew things. There was no foreign competition when they were young. That's my explanation to boomers success. Also there are loads of them so voting wise they get beneficial policies.
Caporegime
Pipe down, boomer.
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Get over it. The nature of living in a democracy is that you have to deal with other people's preferences regarding how the country is run.
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The good old days of Blair and Brown? The Gulf war, The credit crunch, vat down to 15% then up to 20%....should have left it at 17.5% huh?
Caporegime
Not anymore, you're meant to live in a state of perpetual outrage because the world isn't fair and everyone who isn't on your "side" is a wrongthinker.