Will DDR5 be viable at launch?

Meatysy · 14 Jun 2021 at 18:20

Do people reckon that price and compatibility with ddr5 will be viable with the launch of the next set of processors or will we be better to stick with ddr4 for longer?

I was planning an upgrade at the start of the year but haven't managed yet so thinking I might just wait till the next set of processors as it sounds like it will be such a big shift.

Is it worth it?

newbieclocker · 14 Jun 2021 at 18:51

Probably not, the enterprise need to get DDR5 first and then we will start seeing it release about a year later for enthusiasts

Meatysy · 14 Jun 2021 at 19:23

newbieclocker said:
Probably not, the enterprise need to get DDR5 first and then we will start seeing it release about a year later for enthusiasts

I thought everything was pointing at the next set of processors using it? Potentially exclusively. Ot have I seen a couple generations ahead on that news.

Tetras · 14 Jun 2021 at 20:09

From the news I've seen, it will be available at launch. If you'll want to buy it is another question.

Meatysy · 14 Jun 2021 at 20:26

Tetras said:
From the news I've seen, it will be available at launch. If you'll want to buy it is another question.

I guess that's what I was getting at. How rocky will the launch be. Is this next set going to be a write off for the first six months.

Yella Fella · 15 Jun 2021 at 19:57

Wonder how much the cost of this will be for a pair of 16gb DDR5 compared to DDR4?

SypherSage · 16 Jun 2021 at 02:19

From what I've read the next generation of AMD chips will not be supporting DDR5, though the intel platforms should. Just like X99 supported ddr4 at launch.

Grim5 · 16 Jun 2021 at 02:22

newbieclocker said:
Probably not, the enterprise need to get DDR5 first and then we will start seeing it release about a year later for enthusiasts

I don't know what gave you that idea, because we've has several DDR manufacturers recently public state for all intended purposes that are planning to sell consumer DDR5 memory kits BEFORE the end of this year, alongside Intel's Alder Lake DDR5 desktop platform

Grim5 · 16 Jun 2021 at 02:25

SypherSage said:
From what I've read the next generation of AMD chips will not be supporting DDR5, though the intel platforms should. Just like X99 supported ddr4 at launch.

Incorrect. AMD Zen 4 most definitely uses DDR5 and unlike Intel, Zen 4 is not backwards compatible. Intel's Alder Lake chipset supports DDR5 and DDR4, while Zen 4 will only be DDR5.

What you are probably confused with is PCIE5, AMD's Zen 4 will not support PCIE5 while Intel will

SypherSage · 16 Jun 2021 at 02:33

Grim5 said:
Incorrect. AMD Zen 4 most definitely uses DDR5 and unlike Intel, Zen 4 is not backwards compatible. Intel's Alder Lake chipset supports DDR5 and DDR4, while Zen 4 will only be DDR5.

What you are probably confused with is PCIE5, AMD's Zen 4 will not support PCIE5 while Intel will

Ahh may be, thanks for the correction!

Game · 16 Jun 2021 at 13:34

in some ways your overthinking it all

if you build a half decent system now even on a budget it will last you 3-5 years maybe more

now you can wait but then you will have other rumours about new things on the way

every other memory upgrade has been problematic for a while

Game · 16 Jun 2021 at 13:38

what is your system currently ?

Meatysy · 16 Jun 2021 at 20:16

Game said:
what is your system currently ?

I am currently on a 7 year old laptop. Think it is a gt 780m. She is chugging along on Apex low settings and about 35fps. I can hold out this madness to get a better price on my gpu. Maybe...

Ch3m1c4L · 16 Jun 2021 at 21:06

It won't be "worth it" but it is probably required.
The first gen of it will be expensive as hell, loose timings and bottom of the barrel speeds (for ddr5) if you want anything reasonably priced. A year or two later, you'll be able to get the mid range sweet spot stuff for acceptable prices, and you'll feel bad replacing your stuff that is worse and cost 4x the price at launch.

Source: me, buying ddr 2 and 3 at launch. I learnt to wait for ddr4, made easier since cpus didn't leap in performance

Game · 16 Jun 2021 at 21:32

Meatysy said:
I am currently on a 7 year old laptop. Think it is a gt 780m. She is chugging along on Apex low settings and about 35fps. I can hold out this madness to get a better price on my gpu. Maybe...

If you can afford it I would just buy something now maybe a pre built system

There is a lot to like about doing it that way

And playing apex at 1440p now on a nice 27 monitor would be worth it

Meatysy · 16 Jun 2021 at 21:50

Game said:
If you can afford it I would just buy something now maybe a pre built system

There is a lot to like about doing it that way

And playing apex at 1440p now on a nice 27 monitor would be worth it

I have a PSU and a 4000d sitting so can't really afford a prebuilt. I can wait it out longer. I'm in no hurry as the other games I play are older so don't need as much power. Anything that was on a PS4 then I could manage if only just so I'm good.

G Byram · 16 Jun 2021 at 22:23

TBH how much difference will DDR5 make over DDR4 for the average gamer. It's got to be pretty minimal compared to GPU and CPU impact.
As always, the increased potential memory capacity and speed is always good for non-gaming applications like graphic design.
Of course, if you are are one of the elite system builders that must have the highest benchmarks, it is an absolute must!

Joxeon · 16 Jun 2021 at 22:32

Tetras said:
From the news I've seen, it will be available at launch. If you'll want to buy it is another question.

From what I've seen there is already talk of DDR5 12600mhz enthusiast ram in the pipeline.