Biden and the UK

Minstadave · 17 Jun 2021 at 15:33

Cyber-Mav said:
biden doesnt do twitter like trump did

A big redeeming quality that.

deuse · 17 Jun 2021 at 15:47

Colonel_Klinck said:
Wow just when I think you can't go any lower you deliver.

What the truth?
Don't hide behind things, tell the truth.

deuse · 17 Jun 2021 at 15:50

VincentHanna said:
Germany paid $63.8 billion, broadly in line with us.

It's just their GDP is bigger than ours, so as a percentage it's not quite as much.

"broadly" give it a rest.

Germany and others haven't paid as much as some for donkeys years and you know it.
Please stop deflecting the truth it's embarrassing.

Nasher · 17 Jun 2021 at 15:52

Germany pays FA for defence because they know the US will fork out for it. Their own military is in a poor state.

dlockers · 17 Jun 2021 at 15:54

deuse said:
Way out.

Only the United States, Britain, Greece, Poland, Latvia, Lithuania, Estonia, France, Norway and Romania will spend 2% or more in 2020, although Turkey, Bulgaria and Croatia are close.
Germany, Europe’s biggest economy, has pledged to reach the NATO defence spending target by 2031.

They should pay or leave.

Ah the "cut your nose to spite your face" approach.

potatolord · 17 Jun 2021 at 15:56

Colonel_Klinck said:
Post Brexit there was the GFA and the US was involved in that in a big way. Also all the talk of a free trade agreement and Trump was all for pushing that through which would have been a disaster for UK farmers and the NHS.

Heh, if you think US trade policy will change much under Biden, you're mistaken.

From what I understand, their negotiating position is largely unchanged.

VincentHanna · 17 Jun 2021 at 15:56

Nasher said:
Germany pays FA for defence because they know the US will fork out for it. Their own military is in a poor state.

Are we going in circles? https://www.overclockers.co.uk/forums/posts/32602640

Nasher · 17 Jun 2021 at 15:58

VincentHanna said:
Are we going in circles? https://www.overclockers.co.uk/forums/posts/32602640

They probably get VW to do the figures.

https://foreignpolicy.com/2020/06/18/trump-withdraw-troops-germany-military-spending/

Blackjack Davy · 17 Jun 2021 at 16:04

Vega said:
I am curious, how is President Biden portrayed and thought about in the UK? I find it comical when I read the BBC; like he's the second coming of Christ and walks on water. They also NEVER mention his constant buffooneries.

In the US, I'm an Independent who leans Conservative. Although I am not a huge fan of Donald Trump. But to a large portion of the US; Biden is a joke and an embarrassment. It's just astonishing the difference in media coverage between the two Presidents.

Thoughts?

Its the BBC, what did you expect. Maitlis on Newsnight couldn't keep the grin off her face when it announced Trump lost she fairly stared at the camera for an age, you knew she was dying to say something but couldn't or she'd wind up in trouble (again)

Colonel_Klinck · 17 Jun 2021 at 17:04

potatolord said:
Heh, if you think US trade policy will change much under Biden, you're mistaken.

From what I understand, their negotiating position is largely unchanged.

Yes but Trump was pushing for it where as I've not heard Biden mention it. I'm sure Biden will leave it to the State Dept and the other departments that would be involved. Trump would just impose himself in it when he shouldn't be anywhere near it.

I'll be honest i don't think we'll get a big trade deal with them as we won't open the NHS to them as they'd want and we won't allow the unlabelled GM foods in. Also hormone fed meat and chlorine washed food foods.

Lord-Jaffa · 17 Jun 2021 at 17:12

Colonel_Klinck said:
Yes but Trump was pushing for it where as I've not heard Biden mention it. I'm sure Biden will leave it to the State Dept and the other departments that would be involved. Trump would just impose himself in it when he shouldn't be anywhere near it.

I'll be honest i don't think we'll get a big trade deal with them as we won't open the NHS to them as they'd want and we won't allow the unlabelled GM foods in. Also hormone fed meat and chlorine washed food foods.

We already have chlorine washed foods.

Cyber-Mav · 17 Jun 2021 at 17:22

Nasher said:
Germany pays FA for defence because they know the US will fork out for it. Their own military is in a poor state.

Under hitler they had quite the army.

Nasher · 17 Jun 2021 at 17:38

Cyber-Mav said:
Under hitler they had quite the army.

Then he went completely crazy and made the Beetle.

potatolord · 17 Jun 2021 at 18:19

Colonel_Klinck said:
Yes but Trump was pushing for it where as I've not heard Biden mention it. I'm sure Biden will leave it to the State Dept and the other departments that would be involved. Trump would just impose himself in it when he shouldn't be anywhere near it.

I'll be honest i don't think we'll get a big trade deal with them as we won't open the NHS to them as they'd want and we won't allow the unlabelled GM foods in. Also hormone fed meat and chlorine washed food foods.

So, it's the same, but it's better?

I'm not really getting your point here.

Rroff · 17 Jun 2021 at 18:19

Jean-F said:
No mention of possible dementia here, maybe you know different;

I'm a little loath to post the videos as they try to blow everything up into dementia or just hating on Biden territory whether it is or isn't a gaff, etc. but there is a lot of times during the events in and around G7 where Biden really struggles and is obviously suffering with some impairment which isn't just a stammer...

If it wasn't for the fact this is off the back of the whole Trump situation many people would be posting in a very different light.

potatolord · 17 Jun 2021 at 18:19

Edit: oops, double post.

Colonel_Klinck · 17 Jun 2021 at 19:21

Lord-Jaffa said:
We already have chlorine washed foods.

Not meat we don't. Also animal welfare standards in the US stink. We shouldn't allow any meat products in unless they meet standard our farmers and meat industry follow. Sadly our Gov threw those rules out of the window.

Nasher · 17 Jun 2021 at 19:23

They threw part of that out of the window when they started allowing "halal" meat.

Colonel_Klinck · 17 Jun 2021 at 19:26

Rroff said:
I'm a little loath to post the videos as they try to blow everything up into dementia or just hating on Biden territory whether it is or isn't a gaff, etc. but there is a lot of times during the events in and around G7 where Biden really struggles and is obviously suffering with some impairment which isn't just a stammer...

If it wasn't for the fact this is off the back of the whole Trump situation many people would be posting in a very different light.

Oh I don't think he's a good choice. He's too old and too conservative for me. He'd be a Tory in the UK. However it was a binary choice, Biden or Trump, that isn't a great choice but there is only 1 winner.

Rroff · 17 Jun 2021 at 19:32

Colonel_Klinck said:
Oh I don't think he's a good choice. He's too old and too conservative for me. He'd be a Tory in the UK. However it was a binary choice, Biden or Trump, that isn't a great choice but there is only 1 winner.

Just something that doesn't sit well with me. If Biden had replaced someone else most of the people defending him would be posting a very story. But because there might be the slightest chance somehow maybe it would make Trump less bad they praise Biden like he is some kind of saint.